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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.39%
A 157 21.90%
A- 98 13.67%
B+ 77 10.74%
B 58 8.09%
B- 27 3.77%
C+ 38 5.30%
C 37 5.16%
C- 23 3.21%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old May 11 2013, 10:10 AM   #1516
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Just got back from the movie.

And a super-augment like Khan didn't think that the torpedoes could have been tampered with or armed by Spock?
His behaviour indicates 2-dimensional thinking.


And in his interrogation by Kirk and Spock earlier, Khan indicated that he wasn't afraid of Vulcans and their pacifist ways
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Old May 11 2013, 11:09 AM   #1517
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You're right about the impulse engine - they replaced it with a much bigger one that wraps around the rear of the saucer.

The only other starship I saw (aside from the Enterprise and Vengeance) was a Newton-class ship docked with the space station when the Enterprise left and jumped to warp. But if there was a Starfleet ship in red, I wonder if it's meant to be the Intrepid? There was a Vulcan captain at the conference, and we know Vulcan ships have a similar colouration.
Thanks for confirming the impulse upgrade.

I do remember that Newton class starship, just as the Ent jumped, but this 'red ship' was slightly before then, possibly near the shot of the docking clamps releasing... I definitely need to go see Into Darkness for a second time - so many details that my eyes need to explore, and to confirm whether my eyes are playing tricks on me! A Vulcan-influenced StarFleet ship would be an interesting hybrid.

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Old May 11 2013, 01:08 PM   #1518
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These are things that I can overlook, but beaming from Starfleet HQ to Kronos?
Hand communicators also work between the Neutral Zone and Earth. Space is a lot smaller in the nuVerse - must be those new black holes.
Transwarp beaming... I hate, hate, HATE it.

Kirk calling Scotty on his communicator was strange in the cinema but after thinking about it I realised that Kirks communicator is probably wirelessly connected to the Enterprises communications array rather than just the communicator working on its own 'signal' and this works for me.

Yeah, thanks. This was bugging me, but I like this explanation.

The speed of travel, yeah it's annoying but you can see why they feel the need to do it.

The film generally, I thought it was great. The first half was superb and the Khan reveal was excellent. The 2nd half didn't quite live up to it, possibly because there was no real surprises and it was so obvious Kirk was never going to die.

At one point I thought they were going to turn Khan into a semi-good guy so I'm glad he went where he did.

I just wish they had used the Klingons a bit more, and at the end we were promised an almost certain war by Ad Marcus, yet they were off on a 5-year exploration mission? Hopefully the Klingons are the main enemy in the next film.

I didn't like Marcus's reference to their initial dealings with the Klingons as if they had just made first contact (when ofc in this timeline we have all of the Enterprise backstory when we had plenty of Klingon contact)

But I can get over that. Looking forward to reading the book as well.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:23 PM   #1519
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I just wish they had used the Klingons a bit more, and at the end we were promised an almost certain war by Ad Marcus, yet they were off on a 5-year exploration mission? Hopefully the Klingons are the main enemy in the next film.
I think the main enemy of the next film will be the Borg. Mark my words!
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Old May 11 2013, 01:26 PM   #1520
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I just wish they had used the Klingons a bit more, and at the end we were promised an almost certain war by Ad Marcus, yet they were off on a 5-year exploration mission? Hopefully the Klingons are the main enemy in the next film.
I think the main enemy of the next film will be the Borg. Mark my words!
If going bigger is their focus, then there really isn't any other place they can go.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:39 PM   #1521
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The Borg are not a tos foe, its tng and they should be saved for any future TNG movie. Hopefully if we get TNG movies they are written by someone else. I can't get over this silly script ATM.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:43 PM   #1522
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The Borg are not a tos foe, its tng and they should be saved for any future TNG movie.
I disagree. I've always had a secret interest in a Kirk vs. the Borg story and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:51 PM   #1523
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It's a TNG thing. Just like the Holodeck and Q is a TNG thing. Leave them out of Kirk era movies.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:54 PM   #1524
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It's a TNG thing. Just like the Holodeck and Q is a TNG thing. Leave them out of Kirk era movies.
The holodeck is a TAS thing (The Practical Joker) and Q is just reuse of the Trelane concept (The Squire of Gothos).

Why can't I have a Kirk vs. Borg film? TNG used all types of characters/races/concepts from TOS.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:57 PM   #1525
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I just think that if we do get to nuTNG movies in a few years that the Borg should show up in one of their movies and therefore I would like to see them left alone until then.
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Old May 11 2013, 01:58 PM   #1526
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The Borg are not a tos foe, its tng and they should be saved for any future TNG movie.
I disagree. I've always had a secret interest in a Kirk vs. the Borg story and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. By the way here's what Lindelof said a few days ago in an interview.

DL - “You can never see enough Klingons, and I think in this film we’ve given the audience a little taste, but there’s also a promise that there’s a larger conflict on the horizon, and that would be fun to see.”

HUG - So that’s the basis for the next film then?

DL - “Draw your own conclusions my friend. I confirm nothing and deny all.”

HUG - Will we see Benedict Cumberbatch return in future films?

DL - “To answer that question would be to determine whether or not he actually survives this movie, but if he survives this movie, I think that we would be incredibly stupid to not use him again.”

HUG - When I was speaking to Bob (Orci) and Alex (Kurtzman) earlier, they did mention they’d like to bring The Borg and Q into this universe. Have they mentioned that to you?

DL - “You can’t talk about Trek and not talk about the Borg, and certainly about Q. Very iconic adversaries from The Next Generation which is, outside of the original cast films, was my entry way into Star Trek, so I wouldn’t mind getting – towards the end of our run on Star Trek, maybe baby Picard could be born. There has to be some sort of crossover we’re not thinking of.”
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Old May 11 2013, 02:01 PM   #1527
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I just think that if we do get to nuTNG movies in a few years that the Borg should show up in one of their movies and therefore I would like to see them left alone until then.
I wouldn't hold my breath for nuTNG. If it ever does happen, I can't see it happening before 2025 at the earliest.
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Old May 11 2013, 02:04 PM   #1528
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I wonder how is the box office in germany, england, asia theaters.

In Brasil premiere may 17th, IMAX - São Paulo.
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Old May 11 2013, 02:06 PM   #1529
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Just got a quick question: At the end of the film I have heard there is a "Space; the Final Frontier..." scene before the credits roll. Can someone tell me who speaks? Is it Spock Prime again?
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Old May 11 2013, 02:07 PM   #1530
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Kirk.

and that DL interview sounds very promising, thanks for sharing
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