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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 141 19.11%
A 160 21.68%
A- 99 13.41%
B+ 82 11.11%
B 58 7.86%
B- 27 3.66%
C+ 40 5.42%
C 38 5.15%
C- 24 3.25%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.36%
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Old May 11 2013, 03:01 AM   #1501
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

That's really reaching. "Let's suddenly assume that Section 31 has advanced regenerative medical technology that no one knows about despite there being no indication of that," is no different than "a wizard did it."
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Old May 11 2013, 03:15 AM   #1502
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Saw it again, enjoyed it even more a second time....

The Star Trek title gives me goosebumps.
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Old May 11 2013, 05:30 AM   #1503
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I thought that the human in the torpedo that McCoy and Marcus disarmed looked a bit like Picard. How about if they did that?

So what's going to happen to the 72 augments?
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Old May 11 2013, 06:27 AM   #1504
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Oso Blanco wrote: View Post
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Why does McCoy decide he needs Khans blood when there are 72 other survivors of the Botany Bay onboard ship?
I've been asking myself that very question during the movie. Maybe it would have taken too long to unfreeze one of the other augments?
Does McCoy know whether it is any survivors blood or just Khans that can do the miracle ?

Did they really need Khan alive to give blood anyway - surely they could have scraped enough of Khans blood off the ground after Spock had finished with him?

Seriously though did Spock need the added complication of having to take Khan alive.
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Old May 11 2013, 06:43 AM   #1505
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I expected a sitting-on-the-edge-of-my-seat-and-biting-my-nails-thriller
Well, I hate most mindless action films, but I was on the edge of my seat for most of the second half.
I didn't mean action thriller, I was thinking more of a suspense thriller. And there was absolutely no suspense whatsoever, apart from the moment when Pike died. That was the only moment when I thought *please don't die, please don't die* ... but he did ...
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Old May 11 2013, 07:05 AM   #1506
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

The child only needed a vial of blood.

Kirk had a transfusion because his blood was irradiated, but I'm going to assume he had only a vial of blood from Khan and not liters of blood from him.
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Old May 11 2013, 07:22 AM   #1507
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I thought that the human in the torpedo that McCoy and Marcus disarmed looked a bit like Picard. How about if they did [B]that?
I thought it looked like Data but maybe that was wishful thinking.
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Old May 11 2013, 07:35 AM   #1508
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Let's throw all the series into a blender and pour splotches onto ST:XIII.
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Old May 11 2013, 08:35 AM   #1509
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Hmmm... a couple of things I noticed in the movie (among the many things that caught my eye):

* A metallic red-coloured, three-nacelled Starfleet starship - at the spacedock (looking not unlike an Armstrong class starship)

* At the end of the movie, when we get a shot of the Enterprise, instead of x2 impulse engines on the primary saucer, it appears that the middle section (with impulse vents on either side) is also glowing red - giving the appearance of one long bar of impulse engine arrays. I thought I also heard it mentioned that the Enterprise had been refitted / repaired - and I presume that the modified impulse engine vents was part of this refit...

In both instances, I might have been mistaken - can anyone else confirm either of these observations?

Hope I wasn't seeing things... :P
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Old May 11 2013, 08:50 AM   #1510
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

You're right about the impulse engine - they replaced it with a much bigger one that wraps around the rear of the saucer.

The only other starship I saw (aside from the Enterprise and Vengeance) was a Newton-class ship docked with the space station when the Enterprise left and jumped to warp. But if there was a Starfleet ship in red, I wonder if it's meant to be the Intrepid? There was a Vulcan captain at the conference, and we know Vulcan ships have a similar colouration.
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Old May 11 2013, 09:16 AM   #1511
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Phily B wrote: View Post
Saw it again, enjoyed it even more a second time....

The Star Trek title gives me goosebumps.
Me too. Enterprise flying away > drawing on the ground > Ent going to warp all with the music and the title appearing, fantastic

Didn't think they could top the 2009 title card
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Old May 11 2013, 09:24 AM   #1512
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Saw it again, enjoyed it even more a second time....

The Star Trek title gives me goosebumps.
Me too. Enterprise flying away > drawing on the ground > Ent going to warp all with the music and the title appearing, fantastic

Didn't think they could top the 2009 title card
For me personally that was the single best part of the whole movie! The first 15 or so minutes on Nibiru were great and really felt like a genuine TOS-like mission. The design of the planet, the aliens, the inside of the volcano and the Enterprise underwater looked amazing! It was all so fast-paced and yet very true to TOS. And then that title ... stunning!
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Old May 11 2013, 09:27 AM   #1513
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Anyone got a good look at the monster that Kirk shot at the beginning?

Felt a bit like payback time from the last film where he had to run for his life from the alien critters.
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Old May 11 2013, 09:29 AM   #1514
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Just got back from the movie. Enjoyed it thoroughly!!

A few minor quibbles though:

How far is Qo'nos from Earth? About 10 minutes?

And a super-augment like Khan didn't think that the torpedoes could have been tampered with or armed by Spock?

Like I said, minor quibbles.

Liked the continuity references, the presence of the tribble, Section 31. Kickass Klingons. Except they got their asses kicked.

So now that Klingon space has been violated, we're gonna see war in Star Trek XIII?
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Old May 11 2013, 09:44 AM   #1515
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Just got back from the movie.

And a super-augment like Khan didn't think that the torpedoes could have been tampered with or armed by Spock?
His behaviour indicates 2-dimensional thinking.
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