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Old May 10 2013, 10:00 PM   #91
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Re: is TOS the only 'true' Star Trek?

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Old May 10 2013, 10:06 PM   #92
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-Relics
-Trials and Tribblelations
-Flashback
-In a Mirror, Darkly

All these are considered among the best episodes in their respective series. None of the 4 spinoffs have this kind of homage from each other;
I don't consider these episodes the best. In fact I think they are all pretty mediocre. Trial and Tribbelations is the best of those, but only because of the truly amazing, seamless integration of old and new.
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Old May 10 2013, 10:25 PM   #93
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You're the poster who started the thread, right? How are you defining "true"?
Yeh, that's me. At the time I was thinking how, in the real world, the producers always have to get the ratings to go up, so they tweak the production in order to (like the introduction of Troi's decotte costume in TNG or 7/9 in Voy).

So they called DeForestKelley and James Doohan for TNG, Shatner for the movie, The Enterprise and the Tribbles for DS9, Takey for VOY, the Defiant for ENT. It's always TOS they run to for help with pleasing the fans (ratings). Now since the 2009 roboot, Star Trek is 23rd century again.

By 'true' I meant classic, or timeless, highly creative (of course since it had no previous generation to succed. But I think I'm circling), things the other shows dont look to be so much. Maybe I should have used the word 'classic'. I did put the word 'true' between quotes.

But since the various posters talked about canon issues I feel the thread went that way. It's alright, too. Fun read.
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Old May 10 2013, 10:54 PM   #94
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You're the poster who started the thread, right? How are you defining "true"?
Yeh, that's me. At the time I was thinking how, in the real world, the producers always have to get the ratings to go up, so they tweak the production in order to (like the introduction of Troi's decotte costume in TNG or 7/9 in Voy).

So they called DeForestKelley and James Doohan for TNG, Shatner for the movie, The Enterprise and the Tribbles for DS9, Takey for VOY, the Defiant for ENT. It's always TOS they run to for help with pleasing the fans (ratings). Now since the 2009 roboot, Star Trek is 23rd century again.

By 'true' I meant classic, or timeless, highly creative (of course since it had no previous generation to succed. But I think I'm circling), things the other shows dont look to be so much. Maybe I should have used the word 'classic'. I did put the word 'true' between quotes.

But since the various posters talked about canon issues I feel the thread went that way. It's alright, too. Fun read.
TOS was the first Trek. I don't think that makes it any "truer" than any other. Though I do like it more that the others.

Kelley was used as a bridge from TOS to TNG, just as Stewart was used to bridge TNG and DS9. And they also used DS9 as launching point for Voyager. Takei and Tribbles were part of the anniversary, which had to acknowledge TOS.

TNG has been used to "boost" the other shows. Worf coming to
DS9 when it needed a "boost". Barclay appeared on Voyager several times. The Borg even showed up on Enterprise.
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Old May 10 2013, 11:32 PM   #95
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What, do you mean it's all fictional and subjective taste reigns? Madness, that other folks might like what I don't. No true Trek, next you'll be saying Battlestar Galactica would be better off without robot daggits.
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Old May 11 2013, 02:31 AM   #96
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The truth is that TAS is the only 'true' Star Trek. All those live-action things? Supplementary material to the unadulterated brilliance of TAS.
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Old May 11 2013, 02:54 AM   #97
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Nah, the only true Trek are the comics I drew in seventh grade.
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Old May 11 2013, 03:10 AM   #98
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The Star Trek underpants are the only 'true' Star Trek.

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Everything else is a lie.
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Old May 11 2013, 10:12 PM   #99
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The Star Trek underpants are the only 'true' Star Trek.

http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/z...xer_briefs.jpg

Everything else is a lie.
So we can call it a hull breach when we give you a wedgie? Maybe that's the final frontier?
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Old May 11 2013, 10:29 PM   #100
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What about the Pez dispensers?
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Old May 13 2013, 03:54 AM   #101
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The only true Star Trek consists of the 3rd, 17th, and (of course) 47th minutes of the episode "The Cloud Minders." Nothing else is real.

Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Period.
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Old May 13 2013, 04:25 AM   #102
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What about the Pez dispensers?
And blue warp nacelles.
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Old May 13 2013, 10:27 AM   #103
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I'm more of a Star Trek Helmet kind of guy.
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Old August 18 2013, 03:35 AM   #104
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Hey, to the guy who posted that *BRILLIANT* Sgt. Pepper parody cover: do you have that in any sort of larger image file? I love that, would like to see it bigger, maybe add it to the collection of oddball art on the walls of my workshop. HATS OFF to you, sir!
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Old August 18 2013, 03:36 AM   #105
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If TOS was the only Trek series, I wouldn't be a Trek fan.
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