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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 143 19.32%
A 160 21.62%
A- 99 13.38%
B+ 82 11.08%
B 58 7.84%
B- 27 3.65%
C+ 40 5.41%
C 38 5.14%
C- 24 3.24%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.73%
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Old May 10 2013, 10:58 PM   #1471
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Chu'lak wrote: View Post
Soran, Borg Queen, Ru'afo and Shinzon, have been nothing more than stupid attempts to make a Khan like villian, just give us Khan for god's sakes.
Ru'afo and Shinzon, yeah, I can make that connection. Soran and the Borg Queen though, I don't see it. Neither were on any kind of quest for vengeance.

Sorin was trying to gain immortality and escape the pain of the loss of his family. The key difference is that Khan was trying to avenge the loss of his family. Sorin merely wanted to forget, which is a fairly significant distinction. He wouldn't have killed anyone if there had been another way to enter the Nexus.

And the Borg Queen's motivation was the same as what the Borg's motivation has always been: assimilation and conquest.
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Old May 10 2013, 11:18 PM   #1472
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Just got back from seeing it and I loved it.

I still don't really like the ship and uniform designs but that wasn't going to change from the last movie. I did like the way they remade Space Seed and Wrath of Khan without, er, remaking them...

Like the last film, I loved it while I was watching it but afterwards plot holes started to occur to me, although most for the last film were resolved by people on this site - I trust that the same will happen again. JJ and Co. seem to have trouble writing scripts that dot all the I's and cross all the T's.

Here's my take on why they needed Khans blood and not that of another Augment - they KNEW Khan's blood worked and they only had one shot. Trying anything else was too risky.

And here's a prediction - Spock Prime will have a larger part in the next one to complete his 'arc' and we will get a look at New Vulcan.
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Old May 10 2013, 11:30 PM   #1473
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Brannon Braga could write a better movie that is more reverant to the source material.
Those are two different things.
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Old May 10 2013, 11:57 PM   #1474
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I expected a sitting-on-the-edge-of-my-seat-and-biting-my-nails-thriller
Well, I hate most mindless action films, but I was on the edge of my seat for most of the second half.

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JJ and Co. seem to have trouble writing scripts that dot all the I's and cross all the T's.
Have any Star Trek movies (or episodes) ever done this?
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Old May 11 2013, 12:08 AM   #1475
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The only thing that truely disappointed me about this movie is that the threesome didn't involve two proper Caitians instead of...whatever those were.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:19 AM   #1476
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Quick question: During the chase on Kronos, did anyone else hear a TIE Fighter sound from the Klingon ship?
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Old May 11 2013, 12:23 AM   #1477
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Quick question: During the chase on Kronos, did anyone else hear a TIE Fighter sound from the Klingon ship?
Nope, it's the original "hawk" sound effect from the early Birds of Prey in the TOS movies.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:24 AM   #1478
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Oh, ok. Just thought I heard a hint of TIE.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:25 AM   #1479
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A+. Great movie. I was worried about a lot of things regarding Khan, Spock Prime and other things because of some of the bad reviews. But this was excellent. Well done JJ Abrams, Damon Lindelof, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman, Bryan Burke and the cast the crew for making such an enjoyable ride. And I hope everyone will return for the third installment.

This movie will take the US by storm next week. You guys who are pessimistic because of some of the spoilers in thread and elsewhere: take it easy this is a mindblowing movie.
That was my initial reaction to ST:09. Then I saw it again.
Haha ok. I saw Into Darkness once more tonite. And I am still loving it

One of the things I really like about the movie is how they portray Khan. He meaner and stronger in some ways, and of course Cumberbatch has a different acting style compared to Montalban, but Orci and Kurtzman have understood the character´s essence. That´s why having back works wonderfully.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:35 AM   #1480
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The only thing that truely disappointed me about this movie is that the threesome didn't involve two proper Caitians instead of...whatever those were.
Every tailed species has to be a felinoid?
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Old May 11 2013, 12:39 AM   #1481
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And about giacchino soundtrack in STID? What is your opinion? Better? Worst?
I really enjoyed Michael Giacchino's work on the Star Trek (2009) score.
Other than the piano piece in the beginning nothing original grabbed me, it seemed to contain a lot of the previous film. I loved the score of 2009 but would have liked some more new themes. Maybe I'll notice them with the second viewing.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:40 AM   #1482
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The only thing that truely disappointed me about this movie is that the threesome didn't involve two proper Caitians instead of...whatever those were.
Every tailed species has to be a felinoid?
Well no, but it was a good oppertunity to put them in there, instead we get two random new aliens.

However with those sheets and that much fur I'd imagine that would get rather uncomfortable before long.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:42 AM   #1483
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Were they perhaps the same as the stripper alien in Broken Bow? Didn't they have tongues like her?
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Old May 11 2013, 12:53 AM   #1484
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These are things that I can overlook, but beaming from Starfleet HQ to Kronos?
Hand communicators also work between the Neutral Zone and Earth. Space is a lot smaller in the nuVerse - must be those new black holes.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:55 AM   #1485
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And the fact they were at warp for around five minutes at most before getting back to Earth, which at 250,000 kilometers to it, they should really have started slowing down before the Vengeance shot them out of warp, as they were already about to shoot past it.
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