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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.38%
A 161 21.67%
A- 100 13.46%
B+ 82 11.04%
B 58 7.81%
B- 27 3.63%
C+ 40 5.38%
C 38 5.11%
C- 24 3.23%
D+ 11 1.48%
D 13 1.75%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.71%
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Old May 10 2013, 12:51 PM   #1381
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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I don't know why, but I liked seeing that the Klingons blew up Praxis earlier.
How do we know that was Praxis?
In one or two novels and in STO it's mentioned as a Kronos moon.
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Old May 10 2013, 12:55 PM   #1382
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In one or two novels and in STO it's mentioned as a Kronos moon.
I know that Praxis is a Kronos moon, but is that debris that we see in STID really the remains of Praxis? Could be, but who knows.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:03 PM   #1383
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I don't know why, but I liked seeing that the Klingons blew up Praxis earlier.
Wouldn't surprise me if the destroyed moon is somehow connected to Nero's rampage through Klingon space when he was finally escaping instead of exploding 30-40 years later as it was supposed to.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:06 PM   #1384
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I don't know why, but I liked seeing that the Klingons blew up Praxis earlier.
Wouldn't surprise me if the destroyed moon is somehow connected to Nero's rampage through Klingon space when he was finally escaping instead of exploding 30-40 years later as it was supposed to.
That's a good idea.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:08 PM   #1385
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I'm guessing he somehow stole John Harrison's identity and built on what someone else had already started.
John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.
Exactly. Genius, eh?
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Old May 10 2013, 01:16 PM   #1386
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I'm guessing he somehow stole John Harrison's identity and built on what someone else had already started.
John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.
Exactly. Genius, eh?
There was no record of a John Harrison until one year before the movie. The point being that Khan couldn't steal the identity from someone who didn't exist.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:32 PM   #1387
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It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.
"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."
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Old May 10 2013, 01:36 PM   #1388
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So is any of the main characters going to die, leave or turn bad?

What do you think?

They promised us they'd shake things up with the reboot. My guess is that they won't, though. The next film is going to end with all the guys back on the bridge at their familar positions.
Question formulated in August 2012 in this thread. So, M I Rite?
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Old May 10 2013, 01:39 PM   #1389
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John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.
Exactly. Genius, eh?
There was no record of a John Harrison until one year before the movie. The point being that Khan couldn't steal the identity from someone who didn't exist.
Not only did he steal John Harrison's identity he WIPED John Harrison from all the records. All of them. That's why he was so familiar with the archive that sat atop Section 31, because he was in there wiping.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:40 PM   #1390
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If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:51 PM   #1391
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If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people.
They should clone him and remove the higher brain functions of the clones so they are just meat machines used for making magic blood.
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Old May 10 2013, 01:53 PM   #1392
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If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.
And it makes you wonder if Khan tried to revive his wife after she'd been killed by Ceti Eels.

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It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.
"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."
Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.
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Old May 10 2013, 02:02 PM   #1393
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It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.
"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."
That's completely different.

Perhaps people might reflect on that later, but nobody is going to be taken out of the movie by the lack of cribbed lines and scenes from a different movie, which is one of the big complaints about this film.
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Old May 10 2013, 02:03 PM   #1394
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.
And it makes you wonder if Khan tried to revive his wife after she'd been killed by Ceti Eels.

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It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.
"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."
Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.
Stargate also punched it.

Space is full of punching!
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Old May 10 2013, 02:07 PM   #1395
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Perhaps people might reflect on that later, but nobody is going to be taken out of the movie by the lack of cribbed lines and scenes from a different movie, which is one of the big complaints about this film.
I completely agree.

I predict Star Wars VII besides having the trademark "bad feeling" line will also contain a trash compactor scene, a hand cutting off scene, someone falling from a great height screaming "noooooooooo..." and the villain saying "I care" at a terribly awkward moment. And that's just in the prologue.
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