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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.39%
A 157 21.90%
A- 98 13.67%
B+ 77 10.74%
B 58 8.09%
B- 27 3.77%
C+ 38 5.30%
C 37 5.16%
C- 23 3.21%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old May 10 2013, 07:37 AM   #1351
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Um... this isn't PM, sir...
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Old May 10 2013, 07:45 AM   #1352
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

This thread is making me feel sorry for JJ (and its pretty hard to feel sorry for the director/producer of 3 Star Trek and Star Wars films).
He attempts to fix many of the complaints made by fans for the previous film - eg Kirk gets command to early, the characters don't match TOS. He gives a thousand nods to Star Trek and TOS and he get Leonard Nimoy to appear in another movie. And people complain its too much like TWOK, its too full of fanwankery, too full of pretty SFX.

Even if you don't like it, you have to appreciate the effort to please the die hard fans.

Well I suppose we wouldn't be Star Trek fans if we weren't constantly nitpicking and complaining. Myself included. LOL
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Old May 10 2013, 08:12 AM   #1353
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

King Daniel wrote: View Post
McCoy birthing Gorn triplets?
Octuplets, IIRC.
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Old May 10 2013, 08:14 AM   #1354
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Borgminister wrote: View Post
Um... this isn't PM, sir...
Thinking aloud......

On the basis of me getting an infraction previously for apparently continuing something that I wasn't, then you should get a warning to, which you won't so a PM would be pointless. I must refrain from having an opinion, silly old me!

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Old May 10 2013, 08:17 AM   #1355
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Trying to help, really...
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Old May 10 2013, 08:48 AM   #1356
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If Khan's blood is so regenerative as to bring Kirk's irradiated to death body back to complete health then why did Marla McGivers die?
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Old May 10 2013, 08:56 AM   #1357
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Starfleet is the military. Let's not kid ourselves. When the Borg or the Dominion come a knocking, who is there defending the planet? Starfleet, that's who.
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Old May 10 2013, 09:03 AM   #1358
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If Khan's blood is so regenerative as to bring Kirk's irradiated to death body back to complete health then why did Marla McGivers die?
A Ceti eel ate her brain.
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Old May 10 2013, 09:11 AM   #1359
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They've killed twenty of my people, including my beloved wife. Oh, not all at once and not instantly, to be sure. Their young enter through the ears and wrap themselves around the cerebral cortex. This has the effect of rendering the victim extremely susceptible to suggestion. Later, as they grow, follows madness, paralysis -- and death.
Plenty of time for a transfusion.
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Old May 10 2013, 09:12 AM   #1360
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Maybe Augment blood can't stop Ceti eels? He does say in that same scene that they killed 20 of his people.

(I can't believe that, out of all of the potential objections, people are focusing on a continuity error between films separated by 30 years, rather than this being yet another dumbass get-out-of-death-free reset button. For Pete's sake, can't anyone in Star Trek stay dead?)
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Old May 10 2013, 09:19 AM   #1361
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Plenty of time for a transfusion.
So, you reverse the death, and maybe the paralysis, but the madness might be irreversible. Certainly even Khan's madness wasn't.
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Old May 10 2013, 09:21 AM   #1362
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

I agree, the madness may not have been something the regenerating blood could fix.

Maybe the regenerating blood is even the cause of Khan's madness.. and what will this mean for James Kirk?
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Old May 10 2013, 09:27 AM   #1363
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Was anyone else expecting the tribble to give birth when it came back to life? It certainly looked pregnant.
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Old May 10 2013, 09:32 AM   #1364
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I agree, the madness may not have been something the regenerating blood could fix.

Maybe the regenerating blood is even the cause of Khan's madness.. and what will this mean for James Kirk?
That was the very thrust of a question from Bones (albeit lightheartedly), as I recall. Liked the response too - a pseudo Trouble with Tribbles reference.
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Old May 10 2013, 10:17 AM   #1365
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Another thing has just crossed my mind: Khan was found and revived less than a year prior to STID, and in that relatively short time period he became what he did become? He basically woke up 300 in the future and immediately became a top agent of Section 31 and a starship/weapons designer? Superior intellect or not, but that seems a bit fast. On the other hand, if people can go straight from Cadet to Captain after three years at the academy ... I guess anything is possible.
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