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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grsde "The Crimson Horror"
Geronimo! 52 43.70%
Good 40 33.61%
Average 16 13.45%
Bad 8 6.72%
…You just cannot see it 3 2.52%
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Old May 8 2013, 04:34 PM   #211
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Try Carlisle Circus in North Belfast, now that's bloody grim, I assure you!
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Old May 8 2013, 08:30 PM   #212
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I'm surprised the punchline wasn't Hull.
Try living in Goole. The place where you go to Hull or Doncaster to find a nightlife....
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Old May 8 2013, 08:46 PM   #213
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I'm surprised the punchline wasn't Hull.
Try living in Goole. The place were you go to Hull or Doncaster to find a nightlife....
I like Hull and East Yorkshire myself just used to Hull being the punchline to those sorts of jokes.
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Old May 8 2013, 09:49 PM   #214
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Didn't think the Doctor would make a joke out of someone's death and felt out of character. But it was only a minor quibble.
The longer he's around, the more Eleven seems to be getting a lot more comfortable with killing the bad guys. I'm not sure if that's intended to be "character development" or not, but it's something that I've noticed.
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Old May 8 2013, 10:14 PM   #215
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Eh, it was pretty easy to pick up. We just figured out that Cardiff is an easily mockable place.
I picked up the same thing but I never understood (and still don't) why Cardiff was hated on.
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Old May 9 2013, 12:14 AM   #216
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I think it's pretty arbitrary, and no different than any other relatively close major cities. I'm in Calgary, and Calgarians hate Edmonton. New York rags on New Jersey ALL the time. EVERYONE hates Toronto. And so forth.

RTD is Welsh and simply ratcheted up the rivalry / playful antagonism between Wales and England like anyone would, albeit blunt to the point of confusion to us non-Brits. Doctor Who seems to have exorcised it with his departure, but since it's still shot there, traces of it will forever remain.

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Old May 9 2013, 12:37 AM   #217
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^ I'm near Chicago....everyone rags on New Jersey. Otherwise, good examples.
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Old May 9 2013, 03:17 AM   #218
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Only dud moment for me was the Doctor's 'ouch' when Diana Rigg fell off the stairs. Didn't think the Doctor would make a joke out of someone's death and felt out of character. But it was only a minor quibble.
You're right, it is generally out of character, but I interpreted that as meaning that the Doctor was so unbelievably revolted by what Mrs. Gillyflower (Diana Rigg's character) had done, that he could not muster any sympathy at all. For the Doctor to just say "ouch" indicates the extent of his utter contempt.

After all, Mrs. Gillyflower admits to blinding Ada (her own daughter) in experiments to immunize herself from the toxin. The fact that Ada only discovered this when she overheard Mrs. Gillyflower indicates that Ada was probably blinded when she was too young to remember (i.e. when she was a toddler, or even an infant). Even the compassionate Doctor would have a hard time sympathizing with someone who blinded her own baby girl.
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Old May 9 2013, 03:27 AM   #219
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Only dud moment for me was the Doctor's 'ouch' when Diana Rigg fell off the stairs. Didn't think the Doctor would make a joke out of someone's death and felt out of character. But it was only a minor quibble.
You're right, it is generally out of character, but I interpreted that as meaning that the Doctor was so unbelievably revolted by what Mrs. Gillyflower (Diana Rigg's character) had done, that he could not muster any sympathy at all. For the Doctor to just say "ouch" indicates the extent of his utter contempt.
Last part sounds, intentionally or not, a bit vengeful, which I don't think was the case, but the indifference yes.

The Doctor's always liked guns, pain and death.
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Old May 9 2013, 03:28 AM   #220
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...and it's really pretty rare to see an actual non-manipulated thoroughly-evil human baddie in this show, so when one does come up the doc isn't all broken up about them.
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Old May 9 2013, 05:44 AM   #221
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^ I'm near Chicago....everyone rags on New Jersey.
I call it Bruce envy.
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Old May 9 2013, 08:28 PM   #222
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I'm really straining to find anything wrong with that episode...
The only thing that I find wrong with it, which is the same thing I find wrong with this whole half of the season, is that the Doctor is not trying at all to solve the mystery that is Clara.

Even when Vastra and Jenny asked him about it, he basically shrugged it off. I was really looking forward to their return because I thought that finally the Doctor might have to do something (or at least say something) about The Impossible Girl, but he didn't.
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Old May 9 2013, 08:54 PM   #223
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I'm really straining to find anything wrong with that episode...
The only thing that I find wrong with it, which is the same thing I find wrong with this whole half of the season, is that the Doctor is not trying at all to solve the mystery that is Clara.

Even when Vastra and Jenny asked him about it, he basically shrugged it off. I was really looking forward to their return because I thought that finally the Doctor might have to do something (or at least say something) about The Impossible Girl, but he didn't.
What more is there to do other than "wait for the Trap to be sprung"?

He's questioned her about who she is and what she's up to, who she's working for, and why she keeps popping up.

He's gone into her past to see her growing up, and even to the point of checking out her parents before they met
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Old May 9 2013, 08:58 PM   #224
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I'm really straining to find anything wrong with that episode...
The only thing that I find wrong with it, which is the same thing I find wrong with this whole half of the season, is that the Doctor is not trying at all to solve the mystery that is Clara.

Even when Vastra and Jenny asked him about it, he basically shrugged it off. I was really looking forward to their return because I thought that finally the Doctor might have to do something (or at least say something) about The Impossible Girl, but he didn't.
What more is there to do other than "wait for the Trap to be sprung"?

He's questioned her about who she is and what she's up to, who she's working for, and why she keeps popping up.

He's gone into her past to see her growing up, and even to the point of checking out her parents before they met
I know. Clara just isn't all that interesting to me, so without exploring the mystery surrounding her, I just get kinda bored. She didn't even need to be in this episode at all.
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Old May 9 2013, 09:27 PM   #225
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A shame when that happens. I felt the same about Amy as her time went on. After the first series, Rory became far more interesting, and better developed a character. Also, Arthur Darvill is a better actor than Karen, I'd say. The Doctor and Rory were far more entertaining for me.
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