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Old May 8 2013, 08:08 AM   #691
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We are, baring a select few whose parents are crazy, all accidents that ruined our parents lives because they were too wussy of cheap or ignorant to get an abortion.
Riiiiiight.
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Old May 8 2013, 08:55 AM   #692
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If your dad hadn't had children he'd own a boat, if he does already have a boat despite you, then he'd have time to actually take it out if you hadn't just "appeared" one fateful day. Meanwhile your mom would be lawyer, if she is a lawyer, then without you she'd be a judge.

There are churchgroups who pay crack addicts to get their tubes tied.

The only people who should be having children are emotionally prepared and financially secure adults who have decided that they want to have babies, who are realistic about the necessary sacrifices.

Too many overweight teenagers are unnecessarily finding surprise babies in their stool, and calling it a miracle.

Neelix had to really talk himself into being a father of an Ocampan child who would be fully grown and moving in with Harry by her first birthday. He came around to the idea of wanting a child like Tuvix, and we saw his process in how he got there, meanwhile Tuvok was half way through completing his Kholinar training when pon far surprised him... Tuvok can't count to seven? Or did he have to repeat a year which caused a clash?

Tuvix said that he considered himself the child of Neelix and Tuvok.

It's the parents job to sacrifice for their kids, not the other way around.
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Old May 8 2013, 10:19 AM   #693
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Fix the glitch. Its only a question because the minds were combined, if it were only the bodies this wouldn't be an issue. He's no new life form, he's a puree of two officers. Janeway un-pureed them.
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Old May 8 2013, 10:57 AM   #694
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The Doctor had a glitch in Latent Image. Rather than sticking a screwdriver in there, or more accurately after jiggling a screwdriver in his brain failed, Janeway sat beside this rocking mumbling mess and patiently held his holohand while the Doctor tried to work out why the devil he saved Harry instead of a pretty girl.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:03 AM   #695
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My mother tricked my father into impregnating her with me which is probably quite a common way to be conceived. Hearing about as a hilarious tale on the way to school one morning to point out how stupid my father was hopefully isn't that common

(LOL this looks stupid when it's not in reply to what I thought it was in reply to because of wandering off and failing to refresh )
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Old May 8 2013, 11:07 AM   #696
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Tuvix said that he considered himself the child of Neelix and Tuvok.
I am pretty sure that was just PR spinning that Tuvix thought might win him some sympathies.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:11 AM   #697
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This is a true story.

"Keith I'm pregnant."

"How? You're supposed to be on the pill."

"Well we were talking about baby names last month so I assumed that that meant that you wanted me to stop taking it."

"Why the hell would you think that?!"

"Clear as day, you said "Amelia is such a pretty name" then you said that if we had a daughter that you would call her Amelia."

...

They didn't talk civilly for a year after that, and she had her third boy.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:18 AM   #698
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I had a friend who went off the pill after a year of marriage and never mentioned it to the husband. She didn't understand why he was upset at all, she said to me, "I wanted to have a baby so that's what I did." He left after baby number 2.

And you know what I could tell more stories like this than the thread would have patience for.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:25 AM   #699
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The Doctor had a glitch in Latent Image. Rather than sticking a screwdriver in there, or more accurately after jiggling a screwdriver in his brain failed, Janeway sat beside this rocking mumbling mess and patiently held his holohand while the Doctor tried to work out why the devil he saved Harry instead of a pretty girl.
Only cause another of her girls got the sniffles, and Janeway will do pretty much anything to make her favorite lady of the season happy. That's what bugged me so much about that episode where Doc was using repressed memory therapy on Seven. Leaving aside her Borg enhanced eidetic memory, Janeway goes all out of whack second guessing Seven for the sake of an obvious douche bag arms dealer. That story was crap.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:57 AM   #700
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Are you conflating Repression with Latent Image?

Now we can leave them like this muddled up into a single movie length super episode, or can you personally some how un-puree this mega-episode back into dinky latent Image and drab Repression if you feel you have the moral impunity to do so?
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Old May 8 2013, 12:06 PM   #701
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You're conflating Repression with Latent Image.

Now we can leave them like this muddled up into a single movie length super episode, or you personally can some how un-puree this mega-episode back into dinky latent Image and drab Repression if you feel you have the moral impunity to do so.
Not conflating, merely writing poorly. Janeway and the Borg Queen are too similar for each other, though. They tolerate no deviation from their respective collectives, and will destroy any threats to the collective. I'm sure that's why Seven snuggles up so easily around Janeway, it's so much like home with her.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:14 PM   #702
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"Retrospect" was another episode where Janeway caused the death of an innocent man.

Yes, chasing after the weapons dealer JUST to tell him you think he is innocent was STUPID. Just let the guy go and move on. That death was on Janeway.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:16 PM   #703
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Bull, a badly written episode. That clown got what he deserved.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:34 PM   #704
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Bull, a badly written episode. That clown got what he deserved.
The Doctor's evidence suggests that Kovin was innocent. Just because he was a jerk doesn't mean he should have died.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:45 PM   #705
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What would Borg enhanced eidetic memory be worth, anyway? Certainly, the writers forgot about it. Screw him, and frag him.
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