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Old May 8 2013, 04:03 AM   #391
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Perhaps I'm being too nitpicky then, but I guess in some cases I don't really see how what's been briefly recapped has any relation to the current episode's plot. I can see where they used the fight footage from the pilot to reference Ulysses' connection with the Tarr family, but they could have not shown that and it would be perfectly clear from the episode's dialogue.
The reminder doesn't hurt, though. Besides, recaps are a standard thing these days. Shows are no doubt structured to allow room for about a minute of backstory, so they have to put something in, and naturally it's going to be whatever's available that connects to the story.

Back in the '70s, when episodes were usually completely self-contained, it was common for a number of shows to begin with about 30-60 seconds of previews of the upcoming episode. While modern recaps are mainly about refreshing the viewer's memory, they can also serve a similar purpose to those old previews, I think: namely to give the viewer a taste of what the subject matter of the upcoming story will be, a "hook" to pique their interest. And maybe both types of opening serve as sort of a buffer in case viewers are delayed in switching to the right channel, or need time to get settled in on the couch and focus their attention on the screen.


Given that I think both the recent episodes dealt with similar themes - namely, the alien characters trying to fit in and gain respect to some extent (or not, going from the previous episode ), why not show some of the clips in the mine when Irisa was trying to talk her opponent down? That would have segued nicely into Datar's feeling that he deserves more respect and influence in Defiance.
That seems far too vague a connection. And to what end? Just to favor the immediately previous episode over earlier ones? Why is that even a thing to aspire to? The point is to remind viewers of plot points they may have forgotten or fill them in on relevant events from episodes they may have missed. I don't see how "We've explored a similar theme before" is something viewers need to be reminded/informed of, unless they're doing a critical analysis or something.
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Old May 8 2013, 04:15 AM   #392
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The "previously on "blank"" recaps are hopefully for casual viewers, and not morons who can't tell their ass from their elbow. But frankly how in-depth the "previously on" is, is an indicator on how little to amazingly little the producers thinks of it's audience.

Can you blame them? They are making stories for douche bags who in theory will see a 30 second motion picture of a 30 thousand dollar car and then feel compelled to buy that 30 thousand dollar car immediately. I mean fuck it but that's stupid like a cat chasing a laser pointer spot in circles stupid. This is comparable to taking advantage of the mentally ill.

Advertising is evil and should be stopped.
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Old May 8 2013, 04:25 AM   #393
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What is this advertising you speak of?
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Old May 8 2013, 04:44 AM   #394
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I really have no idea.

Stealing TV does have it's advantages.
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Old May 8 2013, 10:27 AM   #395
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The more Amanda and Kendra the better. I don't think I was paying attention that much because I thought I missed a part where Kendra and her friend escaped. I liked the bioman character as well, and the little bit at the end where Nolan has a little dig at Datak's wife.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:44 AM   #396
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Amanda is totally boring! She's just all beige. Beige hair, beige clothes, beige lust for Nolan, beige jealousy, beige office.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:52 AM   #397
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But Julie Benz is radiantly beautiful
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Old May 8 2013, 12:32 PM   #398
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For future reference, Amanda's sister's name is Kenya, not Kendra.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:39 PM   #399
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I bet she was always like, "HAHA you got the boring name and I got the cool name and that's why I'm gonna be a madam and you're gonna be a mayor!"
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Old May 8 2013, 12:54 PM   #400
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For future reference, Amanda's sister's name is Kenya, not Kendra.
Ah yes, for some reason I wrote Kenya first then I changed it.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:43 PM   #401
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In the beginning on Buffy the Vampire Slayer she was so beautiful I didn't notice what a ham she is.

Miss Benz is still gorgeous, but it's been 17 years since Julie was dressed as a naughty school girl in the pilot to Buffy and I'm building a mild tolerance.

Also, if you're watching Scandal, which is just like Greys Anatomy if you swap spies and politics for medicine and mansluts (Because they're both produced by the same woman.) one of the contingent plots to that story is also focussing on a town called Defiance, so I'm finding it hilarious whenever they're shouting about the moral ambiguity of what happened in Deiance, or that what happened in Defiance will haunt the country forever...
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Old May 8 2013, 02:42 PM   #402
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Pretty good episode. We seem to be getting something of an ongoing mystery with whatever the hell is in the restricted area of the McCawley Mine, Datak and his wife are getting increasingly manipulative and increasingly interesting. Datak showing Nolan around and explaining the people was a pretty cool scene, as was the end when Nolan finally figures out the wife (what is her name?) is the real power in the Tarr family.

The Bio-man even gets some interesting development this week. Despite the fact he's a near unbeatable brute, it seems he is somwhat simple-minded. Not simple-minded as in a complete idiot (though I doubt he is very smart) but simple-minded in that all he really wants is to spend time with his friend Robin Dunne. A shame both were killed, that would be a firendship that would be interesting to watch.
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Old May 8 2013, 03:04 PM   #403
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Amanda is totally boring! She's just all beige. Beige hair, beige clothes, beige lust for Nolan, beige jealousy, beige office.
It's Julie Benz. Your argument is invalid.
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Old May 8 2013, 10:02 PM   #404
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This week's episode seemed ok. Somewhat better than the previous two episodes.

But overall, my interest has been waning somewhat on this show. I'll dvr the next several episodes (or maybe even the rest of the season) to see whether things get better or not.

At the moment, most of my regular tv shows will be finishing their season runs over the next several weeks. Besides Defiance and Continuum, there's not much else on the summer tv schedule which has caught my interest so far.

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Old May 8 2013, 10:13 PM   #405
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I felt the same way about Farscape when it first started airing. The premiere had a lot of interesting ideas, but the first half of the season was pretty poor. I didn't even like most of the characters (with the notable exceptions being Crichton and Rygel). Then it hit its stride and became one of my all-time favorite series, and I'm hard-pressed to think of a single character I didn't like at least somewhat. Grayza is about the only one, in fact, and even she had some interesting potential.

Defiance seems to be the same way so far. Cool premise, promising potential, and characters I don't really care that much for (with the notable exceptions of Irisa and Datak and Stahma Tarr). There's clearly a metaplot developing, and I'd like to know more about the whole Votan story post-crash, so I'm willing to go through a few more medicore episodes just on the off-chance that the same thing that happened with Farscape happens here, too.

It's not like the story or characters are blatantly awful, unlike say Revolution, so it's definitely worth a try.
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