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Old May 7 2013, 02:19 PM   #376
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200, I thought it was much larger as they lost 41 in the attack of the mech's. There also seems to be a lot of street traffic for only 200 both at Want Need and just sidewalk vendors. But I agree the economics of the world are hard to get a hold of. There doesn't seem to be enough transportation for a mine to do anything, no trucks or railway shown. Yet they drive around in cars and motorcycles as if they were powered by matter/anti-matter
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Old May 7 2013, 02:56 PM   #377
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200 is a guess.

I haven't seen thousands in any of the town meetings, and we're assuming every able body assembled for the big fight and that looked like dozens not hundreds, but now we find out that 4 times as many of them died as was ever seen on camera.
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Old May 7 2013, 03:35 PM   #378
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Does anyone else think the theme song sounds a bit like BSG music??
It's by the same composer, Bear McCreary, and he has a pretty distinctive style.
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Old May 7 2013, 10:04 PM   #379
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Though, I'll have to re-evaluate it after this season. It reminds me of how I felt about Caprica and Stargate: Universe in that I didn't dislike them, I just didn't find anything to love about them, either.
I was watching the opening credits to last night's episode and thinking that the show doesn't have the depth of BSG when up popped David Weddle and Bradley Thompson's names. I laughed.

But even more seriously for me, the show doesn't have the sheer acting talent on the BSG level either. None of the acting has risen above the "adequate" level, to me. Great acting can trump bland writing, but this show, like so many SyFy shows, seems to have completely ignored this very important component. The lead actor in particular has zero charisma, and isn't very interesting, and he's the lead. He's adequate. Nothing more.

But as others have pointed out, the show looks great, better than Terra Nove and more interesting, at probably half the cost. So I'll keep watching and recording for a while longer.
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Old May 7 2013, 10:18 PM   #380
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^Whereas I'm deeply impressed by Stephanie Leonidas's acting talent, and I think Tony Curran and Jaime Murray are excellent too.
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Old May 7 2013, 10:48 PM   #381
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Nolan is just awful. Boringly written, boring to look at, acting that while "adequate" as gblews said is also boring.
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Old May 7 2013, 11:10 PM   #382
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^Whereas I'm deeply impressed by Stephanie Leonidas's acting talent, and I think Tony Curran and Jaime Murray are excellent too.
Yes I do see some potential in Stephanie Leonidas as Irisa. Perhaps after she gets to know her character better. Same for Curran as Daytak. I really haven't seen anything from Murray that looks out of the ordinary but I'll keep watching and will keep an open mind.

I just wonder how shows like Firefly, BSG, Doctor Who, and others, can throw 4 or 5 actors (regular and guest cast) who turn in great charismatic performances from the opening episode and others, like Defiance (and Grimm), can barely muster 2 or 3, if that many?
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I've found it odd that a lot of the "previously on Defiance" caps don't seem to focus on what actually happened in the last episode, but what might have happened two episodes ago or in the pilot.
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Old May 7 2013, 11:38 PM   #384
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I've found it odd that a lot of the "previously on Defiance" caps don't seem to focus on what actually happened in the last episode, but what might have happened two episodes ago or in the pilot.
Thats because they seem to be focusing on stuff that connects with what is going on in the current episode.
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Old May 7 2013, 11:50 PM   #385
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^Exactly. "Previously" recaps have never been limited solely to the previous hour (except back in the days of strictly episodic TV where they were only used in 2-parters); their purpose is to remind us of the specific things that are relevant to the upcoming episode, no matter how long ago they occurred.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:24 AM   #386
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I must say I was a bit skeptical after the pilot but I'm really kinda digging this show. I've played the game a bit on the PS3 (a few hours or so) and hope to be able to spend more time with it but so far I'm pleasantly surprised at how much its holding my interest.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:59 AM   #387
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So far the pattern seems to be that the even-numbered episodes are really good and the odd-numbered ones are less good. Hopefully the weak episodes are just due to early growing pains and there will be fewer of them in the future.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:18 AM   #388
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But if that pattern holds, then half the series is going to be shit.
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^Exactly. "Previously" recaps have never been limited solely to the previous hour (except back in the days of strictly episodic TV where they were only used in 2-parters); their purpose is to remind us of the specific things that are relevant to the upcoming episode, no matter how long ago they occurred.
Perhaps I'm being too nitpicky then, but I guess in some cases I don't really see how what's been briefly recapped has any relation to the current episode's plot. I can see where they used the fight footage from the pilot to reference Ulysses' connection with the Tarr family, but they could have not shown that and it would be perfectly clear from the episode's dialogue. Given that I think both the recent episodes dealt with similar themes - namely, the alien characters trying to fit in and gain respect to some extent (or not, going from the previous episode ), why not show some of the clips in the mine when Irisa was trying to talk her opponent down? That would have segued nicely into Datar's feeling that he deserves more respect and influence in Defiance.

Again, maybe I'm just being nitpicky. For anyone interested, here's an interesting interview with Stephanie Leonidas about her role in Defiance.
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Old May 8 2013, 03:41 AM   #390
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What drove me nuts was Caprica's "previously on" which was on the dvd's (?!?!). Went on forever, every single ep felt like it showed you half the pilot. Over and over and over.
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