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Old May 6 2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

Vulcans under go Pon Farr every 7 years. We see this in Amok Time. In the episode Spock divorces his wife. But it in never mentioned again. Obviously its more than 7yrs from then to the 3rd movie. So he must have taken another wife. Has anyone ever hinted or written who it may be?
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Old May 6 2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

There are some novels which suggest that Spock and Saavik were eventually married.
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Old May 6 2013, 06:20 PM   #3
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

Let's see.

Tuvok married (iirc) without challenge, he has one of his repeat Pon Farr's on Voyager.

Spock's first Pon Farr results in a challenge that he wins, but he doesn't marry. So does this mean that the Pon farr cycle for him is "burned out?"

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Old May 6 2013, 06:26 PM   #4
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

Good question. And just taking part in the challenge was sufficient to satisfy this overwhelming biological imperative? Was there any other ritual/activity required of Spock once the challenge was finished?
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Old May 6 2013, 07:01 PM   #5
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

I suppose the question is whether or not pon farr is a purely biological drive, or if it has psychological components to it. At the time of "Amok Time," Spock was trying very hard to deny his human half, repress all emotions, and function as a 100% Vulcan. And McCoy himself speculated that the madness of pon farr might be the price they pay for repressing their emotions the rest of the time.

By the time we get to the movies, particularly by the end of TMP, Spock is much more comfortable in his own skin. He's learned to accept both his Vulcan and human halves. And he's seemingly come to realize the importance of accepting his human emotions, even if he doesn't display them outwardly. He admits friendship for Kirk openly where before in "The Naked Time" he claimed he was ashamed to feel friendship. He tells Sarek to tell Amanda he feels fine. And he tells Valeris that "logic is the beginning of wisdom... not the end."

Perhaps the fact that Spock actually came to terms with the need for both sides of himself has allowed him to be free of the madness of pon farr that other Vulcans are forced to live with.
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Old May 6 2013, 07:17 PM   #6
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

I think there would have to be psychological components to it or a Vulcan male could simply spew some baby batter in the shower and be good.
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Old May 6 2013, 08:05 PM   #7
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

Both Enterprise and the novel Sarek suggest the bond is on a mental level.
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Old May 7 2013, 01:04 AM   #8
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

I think ponn farr is a young man's syndrome, something like puberty but it recurs a couple of times. Spock would have at most a mild case around the TMP era, and by the TWOK era I don't think it would bother him at all.
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Old May 7 2013, 01:52 AM   #9
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

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Both Enterprise and the novel Sarek suggest the bond is on a mental level.
Of course it is. Spock and T'Pring were telepathically bonded at age 7, and pon farr occurred when they were both physically mature. Yes, Spock was physically mature long before. But there is an essay in one of the Best of Trek books that lays it out quite logically () that T'Pring, as a full Vulcan, ages more slowly and therefore could take a decade or two longer than Spock to become fully mature both physically and mentally, and be able to handle the mental and physical stresses of pon farr.

All canon tells us is that Spock was married to somebody in the 24th century, as Picard attended the wedding.
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Old May 7 2013, 02:58 PM   #10
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Re: Who is Spock's wife(or mate)?

The novel Vulcan's Heart by Susan Shwartz and Josepha Sherman has him marrying Saavik (with whom, you'll recall, he underwent pon faar on the Genesis Planet).
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Old May 7 2013, 03:32 PM   #11
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Did Spock's wife travel with him to Romulus to be with him as he worked at unification, or remain on Vulcan (or where-ever)?

And would the existence of a wife in the prime timeline/universe be yet another reason for Spock to find a way out of the Abrams timeline back home to the prime timeline?

Family responsiblities.

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Old May 7 2013, 03:42 PM   #12
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Did Spock's wife travel with him to Romulus to be with him as he worked at unification, or remain on Vulcan (or where-ever)?
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Saavik
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Old May 7 2013, 06:28 PM   #13
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^ Don't follow the novels myself, and there is something just generally creepy about Spock one day marrying his adopted daughter and protege.

Icky.

My personal preferance would be for Spock's wife to be someone else.


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Old May 7 2013, 06:31 PM   #14
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I agree with the above post.
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Old May 8 2013, 03:17 AM   #15
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^ Don't follow the novels myself, and there is something just generally creepy about Spock one day marrying his adopted daughter and protege.

Icky.

My personal preferance would be for Spock's wife to be someone else.


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