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Old May 4 2013, 07:48 PM   #1
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Need some help with a college assignment!

I'm not sure quite where to start, but once I get going I'll be fine:

"Is there a predominant ‘type’ of gendered body in America today? Discuss with reference to male OR female bodies (not both) and using any two of the readings from weeks 7 (beauty/beauty pageants), 8 (gendered bodies/body size), or 9 (boxing)"
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Old May 4 2013, 08:11 PM   #2
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I'm not sure quite where to start, but once I get going I'll be fine:

"Is there a predominant ‘type’ of gendered body in America today? Discuss with reference to male OR female bodies (not both) and using any two of the readings from weeks 7 (beauty/beauty pageants), 8 (gendered bodies/body size), or 9 (boxing)"
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Old May 4 2013, 08:14 PM   #3
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hxclespaulplayer wrote: View Post
I'm not sure quite where to start, but once I get going I'll be fine:

"Is there a predominant ‘type’ of gendered body in America today? Discuss with reference to male OR female bodies (not both) and using any two of the readings from weeks 7 (beauty/beauty pageants), 8 (gendered bodies/body size), or 9 (boxing)"
Jinx-01, There are weirder things being discussed in college

As for the OP, have you read your reading assignments from weeks seven or nine? You might want to pick one .. sex, and make an introduction and link it to what you read....

We can't really help you if we don't know what you are supposed to read beyond the topics you mentioned unless someone here somehow did something like this

Did the prof include a rubric?
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Old May 4 2013, 10:13 PM   #4
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I'm not sure quite where to start, but once I get going I'll be fine:

"Is there a predominant ‘type’ of gendered body in America today? Discuss with reference to male OR female bodies (not both) and using any two of the readings from weeks 7 (beauty/beauty pageants), 8 (gendered bodies/body size), or 9 (boxing)"
Jinx-01, There are weirder things being discussed in college

As for the OP, have you read your reading assignments from weeks seven or nine? You might want to pick one .. sex, and make an introduction and link it to what you read....

We can't really help you if we don't know what you are supposed to read beyond the topics you mentioned unless someone here somehow did something like this

Did the prof include a rubric?
I didn't even have a textbook until this assignment came up, it wasn't used at any point so I just assumed it was optional. The language in it is just... ugh. Very complicated. I was hoping to only have to look at a couple of paragraphs when I'm tying the assignment in to what I'd supposedly read. Really, I just need the definition of a "gendered body" broken down into something a bit easier to understand. OR:

"Critically reflect upon The Lucia Rijker Story and discuss the film in the context of the readings by Hargreaves and Wacquant (in the reader)."

The movie was about a female boxer. I didn't pay much attention as I hadn't read anything in the readings, but it's on youtube. I think I'm best off with the first question, I do know a boxer irl, but it's associating that with a gendered body that's difficult. The professor suggested either speaking to him about the boxing body vs the "ideal" body and also bought up the point that many female boxers only train and don't actually compete. I could go into the sociology of boxing very easily but not the gender part of it.

http://loicwacquant.net/assets/Papers/PUGSATWORK.pdf <-- see what I mean?
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Old May 4 2013, 11:16 PM   #5
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Re: Need some help with a college assignment!

You are screwed, unless you are pals with someone in the class with a copy, or the library (or one of the libraries) at your college has one. If you are able to buy one, skim and read the parts you need, hats off to you.

Have you tried googling. It helped me in graduate school

Besides, I think asking a boxer those kinds of questions might be risky if you don't know the boxer that well (unless the boxer truly understands and appreciates why you are asking)
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Old May 5 2013, 04:32 AM   #6
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Really, I just need the definition of a "gendered body" broken down into something a bit easier to understand
Gendered Body might have to do with how the societal world around us shapes our perceptions of our physical bodies. This has a lot to do with bulk of the population being encouraged to participate in (usually heterosexual) gender identity conformity.

Human bodies are shaped and controlled by the norms and pathways of the gendered social orders. How you dress, your diet, manner of speech, to meet social expectations. American culture has moved slightly away from this, but only slightly. Little boys still get baseball gloves, and little girls get soft dolls.


The Lucia Rijker Story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_Rijker

It might help to know the title of the textbook, and it's author[s].



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Old May 5 2013, 04:59 AM   #7
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Re: Need some help with a college assignment!

Sorry, you have to do the readings. Specifically, you have to do the readings, understand them, and then cite to the readings in your paper. I suspect the readings will be very useful in helping you understand the meaning of that question. When's the due date?
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Old May 5 2013, 02:33 PM   #8
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I didn't even have a textbook until this assignment came up, it wasn't used at any point so I just assumed it was optional. The language in it is just... ugh. Very complicated.
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I didn't pay much attention as I hadn't read anything in the readings, but it's on youtube.
Some professor is spending time and energy planning lessons, presenting classes, and grading papers... for this?
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Old May 5 2013, 03:21 PM   #9
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Seriously, did you read the syllabus? Unless the syllabus says the readings are optional, they're not supposed to be optional. Granted, I've gotten away with not reading them previously, but they're quite often supposed to be supplemental to the class lectures as opposed to cumulative and are fair game for an assignment.
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Old May 6 2013, 12:16 PM   #10
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Sorry, you have to do the readings. Specifically, you have to do the readings, understand them, and then cite to the readings in your paper. I suspect the readings will be very useful in helping you understand the meaning of that question. When's the due date?
That's what I thought too, though I thought some of them would be done during tutorials - nothing until this point has referenced them. It wasn't until I looked at the unit outline (I enrolled rather late and hadn't seen it until recently) that I saw this:

It is expected that you will read the required material from the unit reader each week and come to class prepared to discuss what you found interesting or difficult, and ask questions about the concepts covered that week.
That hasn't actually happened yet. In the lectures, half the class plays around on their iphones It's actually overdue from last friday, I have an extension until this friday.

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You are screwed, unless you are pals with someone in the class with a copy, or the library (or one of the libraries) at your college has one. If you are able to buy one, skim and read the parts you need, hats off to you.

Besides, I think asking a boxer those kinds of questions might be risky if you don't know the boxer that well (unless the boxer truly understands and appreciates why you are asking)
I do have the text, it's just sitting down to actually read it that does me in, it's very archaic language, despite me passing the most advanced English class that was available in high school. I've known the boxer for 15 years so that's not a problem, however his opinions seem to be very... simplistic I guess.

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Really, I just need the definition of a "gendered body" broken down into something a bit easier to understand
Gendered Body might have to do with how the societal world around us shapes our perceptions of our physical bodies. This has a lot to do with bulk of the population being encouraged to participate in (usually heterosexual) gender identity conformity.

Human bodies are shaped and controlled by the norms and pathways of the gendered social orders. How you dress, your diet, manner of speech, to meet social expectations. American culture has moved slightly away from this, but only slightly. Little boys still get baseball gloves, and little girls get soft dolls.


The Lucia Rijker Story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_Rijker

It might help to know the title of the textbook, and it's author[s].


Thank you! I think I can get somewhere with this in mind. I don't spend a lot of time perceiving my own physical body, as I just accept that it's far from perfect and move on. I don't even have to get a passing grade, just attempt all the work:

To pass this unit, it is not necessary to receive a mark of 50% or higher for each weighted assessment task, although each must be attempted.
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Old May 6 2013, 02:46 PM   #11
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How much is the project worth as a percentage of your grade? It might be possible to pass the class with just an attempt at the assignment, but it will likely torpedo your GPA and make it difficult to be successful in college in the long run.
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Old May 6 2013, 04:24 PM   #12
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How much is the project worth as a percentage of your grade? It might be possible to pass the class with just an attempt at the assignment, but it will likely torpedo your GPA and make it difficult to be successful in college in the long run.
20%. The research essay is the big one, worth 50%:

Write an essay (4000 words) that answers one of the following questions:
1. Lady Gaga represents new forms of gender and sexuality in a digital age. Do you agree? Discuss your response in relation to the concept of ‘cyborgs’.

2. Discuss gender socialization and how it relates to the nature-nurture debate. Where does our sense of gender come from? What is the impact of social and cultural settings on these identities?

3. Why is muscularity for women considered to be problematic in the West?

4. What does it mean to perform masculinity OR femininity? Discuss in relation to drag kings OR drag queens. How does drag open up a dialogue across sex and gender boundaries?

5. Patricia Hill Collins discusses the ‘interlocking nature of oppression’ in relation to African-American identity. What does she mean by this?

6. Clothing and appearance are not trivial. Critically discuss this statement in relation to Muslim women and the practice of veiling and discourses of beauty in the West.
(Just in case you're curious)
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Old May 6 2013, 05:45 PM   #13
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If you get less than 50% on this assignment, it would preclude you from receiving an A in the course. Just keep that in mind.
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Old May 6 2013, 08:49 PM   #14
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It is expected that you will read the required material from the unit reader each week and come to class prepared to discuss what you found interesting or difficult, and ask questions about the concepts covered that week.
That hasn't actually happened yet. In the lectures, half the class plays around on their iphones It's actually overdue from last friday, I have an extension until this friday.

Just because everyone else in class is wasting their tuition money doesn't mean that you should as well. If I let what the students around me were doing define my college experience then I would have learned nothing but how to make a brightly colored MySpace page. Not really worth the thousands of dollars I put towards my education.

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I do have the text, it's just sitting down to actually read it that does me in, it's very archaic language, despite me passing the most advanced English class that was available in high school. I've known the boxer for 15 years so that's not a problem, however his opinions seem to be very... simplistic I guess.
You have to push through it. It may not be fun, but the point of these assignments isn't to have fun, it's to learn something new about the subject. And also to teach you how to do shit you don't want to. Trust me, it will come in handy in your future career.

Since it would probably take too long to fully read all of the information that you need to, I would suggest reading the introduction/preface, as well as the first and last paragraphs of each chapter/section. Skim the middle parts. Read the conclusion. Highlight useful quotes as you go. Write your paper.
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Alidar Jarok and Spot's Meow have both given you excellent advice and feedback, hxclespaulplayer. I hope you'll listen to them.
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