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Old May 6 2013, 06:18 PM   #211
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They didn't try and explain that away, though. It's medicine from the future, it IS magic. If McCoy stopped to explain how it worked, and it violated KNOWN principles about how things work, you'd have a nit worth picking.
I understand everything you're saying Scout101 and I could provide numerous examples of where Trek-nobabble expalins away even theoritical science today with nonsense.

The larger point is - as a viewer of sci-fi fantasy when are people willing to suspend their disbelief and not when it comes to plot devices to make the story work.

By making the 'magic,' nanites at least IMO makes the whole electricity out thing some what plausible and within the realm of modern science. Yes there are some discontunities within the nanite supposition [e.g. lightening] but no more than IMO the multiple discontunities within Trek itself and its faux science.

How many times in Trek did we see the magical engineering solution of the week solve a major plot problem only forgotten about 3 episodes later which could have solved a similar problem? Where are the howls from the Trek fan base for some sense of conssitency within the Trek universe itself?

In any case, the nanites don't present a problem for me - nor that they can cure people from severe illness. It's already within the realm of theorticial science today that tiny robots will one day be performing micro surgery. It only takes a little larger leap of disbelief to believe they can also block electricial current.
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Old May 6 2013, 07:50 PM   #212
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Nanites = midichlorians.

'Nuff said.
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Old May 6 2013, 07:54 PM   #213
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Nanites = midichlorians.

'Nuff said.
So, that explains it! lol
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Old May 6 2013, 08:49 PM   #214
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Nanites = midichlorians.

'Nuff said.
Well force lightening isn't coming out of Nevill's finger tips yet - so not quite.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:15 AM   #215
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Heh, that would be one way to retool the show for season two. Season one ends with all the characters failing to bring the power back on, and most dying in the attempt.

Season two opens a hundred years later. Guns are gone, ammunition ran out decades ago. Certain individuals have mental abilities which allow them to use the nanites. For the general population it appears to be magic.

Straight up swords and sorcery show.
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Old May 7 2013, 12:55 AM   #216
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^That could actually be pretty cool.
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Old May 7 2013, 01:10 AM   #217
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I'll take an Executive Producer credit for the idea. Is my royalty check in the mail, NBC?
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Old May 7 2013, 04:54 AM   #218
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So from what I read some one said in this thread a couple weeks ago, this show was supposed to be about the brother and sister stomping on the last generation, but the writing got out of control and veered away or the kids tested too poorly once phase two began?

What we got is not the product NBC signed off on from first principles.

Weird, huh?
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Old May 8 2013, 03:02 AM   #219
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The kids are bad but who can look at that lifeless lump sheriff from the Twilight movies and think he's any better?

Not much to say about this week's episode. I have to say that is probably the most gratuitous abuse of the "show something followed by X units of time earlier text" trope I've seen in a while.
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Old May 8 2013, 07:08 AM   #220
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Miles Matheson is the only thing that makes the show worth watching.
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Old May 8 2013, 07:21 AM   #221
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Nonsense. I'm assuming we're all watching because we are hoping that Juliet from Lost's leg gets infected and they have to amputate and then she dies in pain anyway... right? I mean, that's why I am sticking around another episode. Hope springs eternal.
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Old May 8 2013, 11:57 AM   #222
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I think the most recent episode was one of the best the show has ever done(maybe the best), but it was at the same time very frustrating. It had a really fast paced first act, and then went really dark in the second act. Darker than the show has really ever gone(save for a moment here and there), and it really worked for me. Both the A and B storylines were taking the characters into really interesting places.

But then they had to ruin what was actually a really good episode by returning to the status quo with Miles/Charlie/Neville, and adding some silly mythology stuff with Aaron and Grace at the end.

It was a still a vast improvement over the last couple weeks though.
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Old May 8 2013, 12:02 PM   #223
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It would help if they started to mention dates, or show them on the screen at teh beginning of the episode.

It is really getting confusing how much time has passed between episodes.

They started with a Lost style narrative where each episode happened almost directly after the last.

Now it feels like I am missing weeks of story in between.
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Old May 8 2013, 03:22 PM   #224
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But then they had to ruin what was actually a really good episode by returning to the status quo with Miles/Charlie/Neville, and adding some silly mythology stuff with Aaron and Grace at the end.
I'm just glad that 15 episodes into the season we're finally getting an answer to the question of why everyone is keeping Aaron around. He's clearly important and doesn't know it.
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Old May 8 2013, 06:24 PM   #225
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Just think how fucked mom would be if she'd gotten the book and Aaron hadn't been around.
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