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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grsde "The Crimson Horror"
Geronimo! 52 43.70%
Good 40 33.61%
Average 16 13.45%
Bad 8 6.72%
…You just cannot see it 3 2.52%
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Old May 5 2013, 03:22 PM   #91
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Re: 7X11 The Crimson Horror(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS

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It's either that or people are no longer interested in buying what Moffat is selling.
Or people are just not as interested in watching Doctor Who since it's been on for quite awhile now.
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Old May 5 2013, 03:32 PM   #92
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Loved the episode! A fun, highly enjoyable outing. Seeing Diana Rigg again was a real treat, too.
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Old May 5 2013, 03:50 PM   #93
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I couldn't have been the only one that was thinking Mr. Sweet was going to turn out to be the Great Intelligence again? I'm glad it wasn't, still I was expecting it.

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Was it really? I saw it and thought it was Galvatron but didn't get a good look. Nice.
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Old May 5 2013, 04:30 PM   #94
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Very nice show, though I thought the last ten minutes were a little bit too frantic and haphazard, as if Gatiss hadn't had enough time to plug all the holes properly. Still, outstanding performance from Diane Diana.

I hope the new kids stick around.

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If you want simplistic shit then Star Trek Into Darkness is just round the corner y'know?
Simplistic shit is always closer than we'd like.

If the series was being run by someone who was't asleep at the wheel it would have been cut after the first draft.
Because? What was wrong with that joke?
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Old May 5 2013, 04:58 PM   #95
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Re: 7X11 The Crimson Horror(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS

I liked it

And it it's nice that Clara doesn't know that there is something weird about her, I like the fact she's just an ordinary person, so to speak, and found it odd there was a Victorian picture of her, I like where this is going

Not a terrible episode, pretty much run of the mill, and what we'd expect for typical Doctor Who episode

Someone above was right, this season is a lot of ups and downs, very inconsistent

Next week looks good, I like it when they have several companions
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Old May 5 2013, 05:14 PM   #96
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Very nice show, though I thought the last ten minutes were a little bit too frantic and haphazard, as if Gatiss hadn't had enough time to plug all the holes properly.
Actually, I've found the episodes this half of the season to be much better paced when it comes to a solution that the last half (particularly The Power of Three).
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Old May 5 2013, 05:20 PM   #97
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What was wrong with that joke?
Because it takes you out of the interal "reality" of the series and into a scene that would be more suited to an episode of 'League Of Gentlemen'.

As DW fans we're used to handwaving all sorts of dodgy science and plot points in order to have the episodes make some kind of sense. But there's no internally logical way of explaining why a 19th Century urchin is talking like a 21st Century SatNav. It's a comedy sketch joke, though thankfully less offensive than the Sonic Screwdriver getting an erection was. (At least a blow-job dispensing Paving Slab made some sense.)
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Old May 5 2013, 05:25 PM   #98
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While I loved the twist regarding the "monster", and got a huge kick out of the old-timey flashback with the Doctor and Clara, I have to admit the rest of the episode just... didn't really do much for me (at least on a first viewing).

The story just felt overly-familiar-- it's yet another community where "all is not as it seems", where there's yet another mad, alien-controlled leader, and where once again people are mysteriously disappearing and/or being experimented on.

And while the Vastra/Jenny/Strax combo was fun to see once, I'm not sure they're really interesting enough to keep revisiting. There's only so many times you can keep hitting the same notes with those characters.
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Old May 5 2013, 05:46 PM   #99
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Meh. It's another one of those "just sort of there" crap episodes.

An uninteresting story (I fell asleep trying to watch it... twice), unfunny moments (fainting guy, Thomas Thomas, just about anything with Strax) shoehorned in, and over zealous Gold music that doesn't fit.
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Old May 5 2013, 05:47 PM   #100
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It's either that or people are no longer interested in buying what Moffat is selling.
Or people are just not as interested in watching Doctor Who since it's been on for quite awhile now.
Speaking personally I can't warm to Clara at all. This means I don't actually bother if I miss an episode and that's me being a huge fan of Matt Smith's Doctor.
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Old May 5 2013, 05:57 PM   #101
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Speaking personally I can't warm to Clara at all. This means I don't actually bother if I miss an episode and that's me being a huge fan of Matt Smith's Doctor.
I like JLC a lot more than I ever liked Karen Gillan but it's hard to deny that Clara is getting only a fraction of the character development that Amy did.

She's got the usual one-liners that all of Moffat's female characters get and her main traits seem to be that unlike most Companions she actually listens to what the Doctor tells her and isn't unrealistically brave. And that's about it, really.
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Old May 5 2013, 06:17 PM   #102
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Oooof. This was bad. I don't care for the scooby doo gang, and even though I love Doctor Who I was almost to the point of turning it off until The Doctor showed up. Then I hung in but it was still as uninteresting and unfunny as the beginning...just with the Doctor.

The Tom Tom joke? Uh, ok. Ha?

Strax being Strax? Completely over it.

This ep basically boiled down to "hey a random creature made a person evil. The Doctor stopped her." We've seen that a million times before, and it can be good but when you add in the awful "comedy" and focus on the scooby doo gang...it's not for me.

So far this season, I would say I enjoyed Hide, but I can't even remember what it was about. The sub one was eh, and the Dalek one was the last one I remember liking, but that was forever and a companion ago.

Moffat needs to go asap. And I don't think Gatis is the answer at all.

Did enjoy the flashback immensely however.

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Old May 5 2013, 06:29 PM   #103
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It's either that or people are no longer interested in buying what Moffat is selling.
Or people are just not as interested in watching Doctor Who since it's been on for quite awhile now.
Speaking personally I can't warm to Clara at all. This means I don't actually bother if I miss an episode and that's me being a huge fan of Matt Smith's Doctor.
Well, he's still the star, so I don't quite get that.
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Old May 5 2013, 06:31 PM   #104
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Well, at least one thing that Doctor Who and the new Star Trek have in common is weird science.

In this episode, we learn that the trio discovered the whereabouts of the Doctor after developing an image which revealed a mirror image of him on the iris of a deceased man. This is bogus science, but I don't question it because this is Doctor Who, and weird science is an essential element of the series.

However, Star Trek has operated on, in my opinion, firmer science than that. Occasionally, it will dip into weird science, sometimes with hilarious ineptitude ("Threshold"). I can take simple scripts, if they are done well. "The Trouble with Tribbles" is a simple script, yet it is a wonderful story.

However, the rebooted Star Trek has overturned the apple cart, so to speak, and we get this gem -

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An uninteresting story (I fell asleep trying to watch it... twice), unfunny moments (fainting guy, Thomas Thomas, just about anything with Strax) shoehorned in, and over zealous Gold music that doesn't fit.
My impression from the music was that it was all tracked from prior episodes - I don't think Gold wrote new music for the episode.
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