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Old May 2 2013, 02:34 AM   #61
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Re: U.S.S. Vengeance from Into Darkness - POTENTIAL SPOILERS

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Heaven forbid I be the first person to disagree, but from the most recent extended trailer, I'm actually pretty sure it's Enterprise crashing, not Vengeance.
It is not the Enterprise crashing in the trailers we see. The shape of the nacelles and nacelle pylons are different...

And if you compare that picture to the Vengeance they match.
I went back and forth with a friend on this so many times. He's convinced it's the Enterprise crashing, but ANY fan can clearly see it's not. The nacelles on this ship (which I think is the Vengeance) are so much farther apart than the Enterprise's and plus they look totally different; they almost look like the nacelles from the Enterprise-E.

The trailer is meant to throw us by showing the Enterprise going down and then cutting to this ship crashing. They underestimate us!
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Old May 3 2013, 06:40 AM   #62
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ugliest official star trek (federation) ship i've ever seen
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Old May 3 2013, 09:23 PM   #63
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Not entirely sure it's a Fed ship. Some have speculated that it's a hybrid of Starfleet and Klingon tech (explaining the angular hulls and pylons), hence the prominent presence of Klingons in the movie.
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Old May 4 2013, 09:01 PM   #64
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ugliest official star trek (federation) ship i've ever seen
Even worse than the new Enterprise?
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Old May 9 2013, 04:23 AM   #65
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Good lord. Overkill, much?
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Old May 9 2013, 04:20 PM   #66
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There's a new TV spot running. It's clearly the Vengeance crashing into San Fran.
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Old May 9 2013, 04:55 PM   #67
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It is the U.S.S. Vengeance. There's a trailing that had been showing on TV, that shows her aft section.

I don't know why some people think she is a ugly ship? To me, she is a beautiful ship.
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Old May 9 2013, 09:42 PM   #68
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Please do not tell me those are escape hatches on the underside of the saucer.. if they are they must be as big as like 4 shuttles or summat??
They've got to be large windows or some kind of shuttlebay door?

I am not digging this design.
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Old May 9 2013, 09:46 PM   #69
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What purpose does the saucer cut-out serve...!?!?
It represents....um...er, uh...an advanced.......errah....understanding of um, uhhhhhh....warp dynamics....and, oh I give up. I can't even try to make this make sense!
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Old May 10 2013, 09:58 AM   #70
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What purpose does the saucer cut-out serve...!?!?
It represents....um...er, uh...an advanced.......errah....understanding of um, uhhhhhh....warp dynamics....and, oh I give up. I can't even try to make this make sense!
Quick, without resorting to the Haynes BOP Guide, how does a Klingon Bird of Prey accomplish warp speeds?!
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Old May 10 2013, 12:18 PM   #71
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i've seen the film:

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Old May 11 2013, 03:28 AM   #72
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What purpose does the saucer cut-out serve...!?!?
Logically, mass reduction. Given the thing's huge size, it's possible that they simply didn't have anythign worthwhile to put there and so left the space empty because filling it would have just added dead weight.
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Old May 11 2013, 11:01 AM   #73
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Re: U.S.S. Vengeance from Into Darkness - POTENTIAL SPOILERS

I'll be honest, I think the garishness/ugliness is 'intentional', by which I mean the guys designing it for the movie wanted it to look like a technological beast, rather that something more elegant like what we're used to (YMMV as to how the rest of Abramsverse ships look). In universe, I think it's a case that it's more the designers for the ship were wanting to fit all the systems in and leave it at that.

Edit: I agree with how it's a tad reminiscent of the Sovereign class.
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Old May 13 2013, 04:09 AM   #74
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maybe it left spacedock facility before it was finished. during dominionwar several galaxy class ships with only 65 percent of spaceframe filled
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