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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 141 19.13%
A 159 21.57%
A- 99 13.43%
B+ 82 11.13%
B 58 7.87%
B- 27 3.66%
C+ 40 5.43%
C 38 5.16%
C- 24 3.26%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.36%
F 35 4.75%
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Old May 4 2013, 02:42 PM   #1051
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Odd that Section 31 was so thorough in one time, and so completely inept in the other.
How do we know that they're inept?
Kirk and crew finds them on accident in 2267, but S31 finds them deliberately, presumably several years before 2255-6? It just strikes me as odd.

I thought it was future Spock that let it be known too, but I guess that doesn't make much sense either if Harrison is supposed to be a tenured agent.
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Old May 4 2013, 02:44 PM   #1052
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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http://www.springer.com/life+science...-1-61779-470-4

Ok 30seconds of googling yielded that result which you have to pay for but it appears to discuss the regeneration of organs with blood and stem cells to repair organs that have failed. So \\//
Here's an introductory article:http://stemcell.stanford.edu/researc...tem_cells.html

And something a little more meaty (Warning: details animal experimentation:http://www.ff.ul.pt/FCT/PTDC/DTP-FTO...hapel_2003.pdf

In short, adult stem cells, including those derived from blood, are being used specifically in the treatment of multi-organ failure after radiation exposure. Combined with advances in post-trauma resuscitation, the "magic blood" thing is not as far-fetched as everyone is making it out to be.
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Old May 4 2013, 02:58 PM   #1053
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Trek started before the whole stem cell thing erupted and it is infact star trek that is woefully out of date (something I have brought up before) and trek should have access to stem cell treatments because it is very much in our future.

Now the only thing in Treks defence is the apparent ban by the federation on genetic research which must have been a retcon to try to explain the lack of gene therapy in trek in the 90s, trouble is the ban doesn't make very much sense as evidenced by the sick little girl in STID.
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Old May 4 2013, 03:04 PM   #1054
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I don't buy it at all. There's no resemblance whatsoever.
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Old May 4 2013, 03:12 PM   #1055
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This is because they're different people.

Montalban is dead. OldTrek is over.

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Old May 4 2013, 03:16 PM   #1056
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I don't buy it at all. There's no resemblance whatsoever.
Why is resemblance important? My only question is can Cumberbatch make me believe he is Khan? I'll find out in just under two weeks.
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Old May 4 2013, 03:28 PM   #1057
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http://www.springer.com/life+science...-1-61779-470-4

Ok 30seconds of googling yielded that result which you have to pay for but it appears to discuss the regeneration of organs with blood and stem cells to repair organs that have failed. So \\//
This. McCoy even did it when he gave the old woman in TVH a pill that grew a new kidney (very fast). That technology must've been so common that he had the pill "in stock" in his little black bag.

Let's say Khan has restorative nanobots in his blood. That is an extremely credible science fiction concept compared to the "big three" of Trek science that hold the franchise together: warp speed, transporters, and artificial gravity. Those three are anywhere from infeasible to outright impossible. I'll even believe in "magic blood" before I believe a universal translator and that there are so many humanoid aliens with funny foreheads out there.
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Old May 4 2013, 03:48 PM   #1058
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This actor was born in Mumbai Indian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrithik_Roshan
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Old May 4 2013, 04:01 PM   #1059
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This actor was born in Mumbai Indian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrithik_Roshan
Okay?
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Old May 4 2013, 04:58 PM   #1060
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My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
OldTrek is over.
And your perpetual overcompensation is proof that you're frustrated about it more than most.
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Old May 4 2013, 05:34 PM   #1061
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Nope. I'm getting what I want.

My patience with meaningless complaints does wear thin, though.
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Old May 4 2013, 05:49 PM   #1062
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how good are star trek into darkness reviews

So far there have been a wave of new star trek into darkness reviews and despite it not being out in the U.S. yet does anyone know compared to the 2009 movie what these reviews tell us and how well the movie is? Also right now rotten tomatoes has a 82 percent and meta critic 75 unlike the 2009 movie which had 95 on rotten tomato and 83 on meta critic but does anyone think it will get better once its released in U.S.?
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Old May 4 2013, 05:53 PM   #1063
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yenny wrote: View Post
This actor was born in Mumbai Indian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrithik_Roshan
He looks like a zombie in that first pic.

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OldTrek is over.
And your perpetual overcompensation is proof that you're frustrated about it more than most.
I always wondered about that. It's so funny how annoyed and pissed he is at people who like the old stuff better than the new stuff.

My Trek is better than your Trek.
My Trek is better than yours.
My Trek is better because it makes more money!
My Trek is better than yours!
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Old May 4 2013, 06:00 PM   #1064
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So far there have been a wave of new star trek into darkness reviews and despite it not being out in the U.S. yet does anyone know compared to the 2009 movie what these reviews tell us and how well the movie is? Also right now rotten tomatoes has a 82 percent and meta critic 75 unlike the 2009 movie which had 95 on rotten tomato and 83 on meta critic but does anyone think it will get better once its released in U.S.?
Moving to the Grading & Discussion thread, where all the reviews go.
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Old May 4 2013, 06:16 PM   #1065
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So far there have been a wave of new star trek into darkness reviews and despite it not being out in the U.S. yet does anyone know compared to the 2009 movie what these reviews tell us and how well the movie is? Also right now rotten tomatoes has a 82 percent and meta critic 75 unlike the 2009 movie which had 95 on rotten tomato and 83 on meta critic but does anyone think it will get better once its released in U.S.?
There are only 17 reviews so far on Rotten Tomatoes. Three are "rotten," and 14 are "fresh." It would take 12 straight fresh reviews to round up the "Tomatometer" to 90 percent fresh. Unlikely, I'd say. Still, I'd be surprised if it slipped below the 80s, but it's probably not going to get to 95 percent, either.

ST09 started out at 100 percent and stayed there for quite a while. (One of the first "rotten" reviews was actually by the late Roger Ebert.)
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