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Old May 2 2013, 11:32 PM   #2476
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Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

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^ Yeah, except this has been better written and more enjoyable than that was
....i dunno about that!
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Old May 3 2013, 03:13 AM   #2477
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^ Yeah, except this has been better written and more enjoyable than that was
....i dunno about that!
Plus I think people actually liked Ben Riley.

This is more like the Jean Paul Valley tenure as Batman after he went psycho.
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Old May 3 2013, 03:26 AM   #2478
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^ Oh I agree with that. People did like Ben Riley (I among them) , some of course even speculated that he was coming back and would be Superior Spider-Man. Then we have what looks to be a variation on his suit upcoming as well.
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Old May 3 2013, 03:52 AM   #2479
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This is more like the Jean Paul Valley tenure as Batman after he went psycho.
I liked Jean-Paul.

Yes, even in his psycho Batman stage.

If I could write a Jean-Paul book in the New 52, I'd do it. In a heartbeat. I know my concept. I even know who the surrounding cast would be.
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Old May 3 2013, 03:54 AM   #2480
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^ I would read your Jean-Paul new 52 book
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Old May 3 2013, 04:08 AM   #2481
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This is more like the Jean Paul Valley tenure as Batman after he went psycho.
I liked Jean-Paul.
Nothing wrong with that, the character was interesting and seemed to be doing okay as Batman until he went nuts.

Yes, even in his psycho Batman stage.
Whereas to me it comes off as a cross between an excuse to put Wayne back in the cape and cowel and (a somewhat needed) crapping on 90s antiheroes that came out of the Dark Age of comics. Of corse thinking about it that way it feels more like a necessary evil, shame it didn't kill the replace a hero with a psychotic version idea entirely.
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Old May 3 2013, 06:25 AM   #2482
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Next week's previews...

Alpha: Big Time #4
Astonishing X-Men #62
Avengers #11
Avengers Arena #9
Avengers Assemble #15AU
Avenging Spider-Man #20
Deadpool #9
Fearless Defenders #4
Iron Man #258.2
Marvel Universe: Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes #14
Secret Avengers #4
Thor: God of Thunder #8
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #24
Uncanny Avengers #8
Uncanny X-Force #4
Wolverine #3

Small week for me. Only Avengers and Fearless Defenders. I'll be getting more on FCBD.
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Old May 3 2013, 06:30 AM   #2483
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Normally I wouldn't post something from Tumblr...but given all the hub bub regarding Age of Ultron...I thought this was fascinating that Bendis posted this.

http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com...deas-as-to-how
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Old May 3 2013, 10:00 AM   #2484
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This is more like the Jean Paul Valley tenure as Batman after he went psycho.
I liked Jean-Paul.

Yes, even in his psycho Batman stage.

If I could write a Jean-Paul book in the New 52, I'd do it. In a heartbeat. I know my concept. I even know who the surrounding cast would be.
Hear! Hear! I'm also a Jean-Paul fan. I liked him as Batman and wished that he had been in the cowl a bit longer.

Here's hoping you get a chance at that Jean-Paul book.
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Old May 3 2013, 04:09 PM   #2485
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Anyone else reading Red She-Hulk?
This weeks issue has an homage to the now infamous Hulk/Loki ragdoll moment from The Avengers film.
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Old May 3 2013, 05:09 PM   #2486
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This is more like the Jean Paul Valley tenure as Batman after he went psycho.
I liked Jean-Paul.
Nothing wrong with that, the character was interesting and seemed to be doing okay as Batman until he went nuts.

Yes, even in his psycho Batman stage.
Whereas to me it comes off as a cross between an excuse to put Wayne back in the cape and cowel and (a somewhat needed) crapping on 90s antiheroes that came out of the Dark Age of comics. Of corse thinking about it that way it feels more like a necessary evil, shame it didn't kill the replace a hero with a psychotic version idea entirely.
I might be getting some of the details wrong but the idea behind JP was to show readers who wrote in and asked why Batman didn't kill the joker et al. why that was a terrible idea, so the plan was always to put Bruce back in the Cowl - however the feedback they got from a lot of young readers was not 'this is terrible' but 'this is great, when is he going to cut the joker' s head off? V
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Old May 3 2013, 05:22 PM   #2487
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Yes, even in his psycho Batman stage.
Whereas to me it comes off as a cross between an excuse to put Wayne back in the cape and cowel and (a somewhat needed) crapping on 90s antiheroes that came out of the Dark Age of comics. Of corse thinking about it that way it feels more like a necessary evil, shame it didn't kill the replace a hero with a psychotic version idea entirely.
I might be getting some of the details wrong but the idea behind JP was to show readers who wrote in and asked why Batman didn't kill the joker et al. why that was a terrible idea, so the plan was always to put Bruce back in the Cowl - however the feedback they got from a lot of young readers was not 'this is terrible' but 'this is great, when is he going to cut the joker' s head off? V
That was exactly it. Denny O'Neill wanted to show why a Batman who killed wouldn't work so that when it was all done readers would go, "Yeah, Bruce Wayne is the best possible Batman. Batman shouldn't kill."

I'm not sure it entirely succeeded because they went about it in a cynical way. Jean-Paul was essentially a "straw man" in the argument; he wasn't written to succeed, and he was set up to fail.

At the time, I thought they should have done much like what Batman Beyond did years later -- Jean-Paul is the "muscle" Batman, while the wheelchair-bound Bruce Wayne is the brains behind the operation.
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Old May 5 2013, 04:10 AM   #2488
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Free Comic Book Day is becoming a bigger waste of time every year. I mean, I'm glad that the stores get the extra business, but there really isn't anything there to appeal to regular readers anymore. Marvel used to put out full self-contained issues. One year, ther was a team-up between New and Dark Avengers by Bendis and Cheung that is actually one of my favorite single issues of Bendis' Avengers run. Another year had a full-legnth Iron Man/Thor tale by Fraction and Romita Jr. There was a full-legnth Spider-Island prelude from Slott and Ramos.

Then came shit like re-printing an issue of Avengers that I've already bought in order to promote an event that will be delayed. This year's Infinity prelude by Hickman and Cheung really isn't anything special in the slightest. The story is only 10 pages long and tries to evoke the feeling of the Thanos scenes from the Avengers movie while planting seeds of Thanos' next scheme on Earth. Also included was 5-page reprint of an old Thanos vs Drax story that originally appeared in Logan's Run #6 (of all places), 1977. I actually enjoyed that story more than the main story.
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Old May 5 2013, 04:49 AM   #2489
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The point of free comic day is not to read something you're already into, but to try something new, yes Marvel, you have a big movie, yes DC your new movie is impressive too... But it's not like you need any help buying mainstream comics, but how is "free" as an incentive to try out something you don't know you like... Unless you're old and stuck in your - HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!

Also it's great shit to hand me down instantly to your nieces and nephews.

Fuckit.

Just grab anyone you're related to under ten and take them to free comics day, and then give them 5 bucks to rummage through the quarter bin. Then every one gets ice cream afterwards and all that goo is not dripping on YOUR comics.

It's not like your sister won't let you see her children any more after what happened at Christmas?

Edit.

ah.

Just looked at the calendar.

Never mind.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I grabbed a shitload of comics, a lot of stuff I normally wouldn't buy, I just wish that they would try a little harder to make the final product worth reading. Especially since I had to wait an hour and a fucking half in line to get the damn things!
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