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Old May 1 2013, 10:03 PM   #391
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And as others have said, there's many more ways to pay respect to the history of the show than by just trotting out the original actors.
Let's hear some then.

Paintings?

A scarf on a random character?

That's really an equivalent to, you know, seeing the people?
In just a couple of years, we here in Indianapolis will celebrate the 100th running of the Indianapolis 500.

And guess what? They won't be running cars in this anniversary race from this great race's long history, even though the vast majority of the past winning cars have been preserved and are in operable condition.

Oh sure, there may be one or two cars that are recent enough to still be active on the circuit, but none of the greats from the past. Those bastards! How dare they call it an anniversary race unless each and every of the surviving 99 winning cars take part in the race itself?

They may as well admit that all they're really celebrating, is the anniversary of the last few years.






Get it?

Or to more directly answer the question of what some of the "many more ways to pay respect to the history of the show than by just trotting out the original actors" might be...

I can honestly see how they could fully and satisfyingly honor the entire span of the show, and celebrate the spirit of all his past 'incarnations', through dialog alone (in the right context of course), by having the current Doctor simply reminisce fondly of his past.
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Old May 1 2013, 10:08 PM   #392
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Well now I know who "Whistleblower" is. He's a dillusional poster on GB that goes by the name of R.E.D, who's been trying to push his frankly ridiculous theories about what's "really" happening in the series (including The Doctor being dead since The Big Bang) on people at every possible opportunity.
Yeah the second I saw Omega mentioned in there I knew it was a fake. Fans have been talking about his supposed return for years (along with the Rani and Valeyard), even though it is something that Moffat clearly has no interest in.
A shame. I think Omega would be ideal for A Matt Smith regeneration story.

I'm also desperate to see the valeyard again, although I think he'd work better as a 12th doctor enemy. Although I hate the Rani in what I've seen her in, I think she could adapt well on screen if done properly and modernised.
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Old May 1 2013, 10:17 PM   #393
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I think the Dream Lord is as close to the Valeyard as we are going to get in this version of Doctor Who. Which I am VERY happy with.
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Old May 1 2013, 10:31 PM   #394
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I think the Dream Lord is as close to the Valeyard as we are going to get in this version of Doctor Who. Which I am VERY happy with.
Agreed. It's a shame he was considered as a recurring villain, because I think he's one of the best the new series ever came up with.

Certainly better than Simm's Master, at least.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:06 PM   #395
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Off topic: It's Tintin! Not TinTin, Tin-Tin, or any other crazy way to spell it! [/rant]

Now that I have that off my chest, I have to express my disappointment that none of the classic Doctors (to include Paul McGann) are not returning. I'm disillusioned enough to grasp straws in the belief that DWM is misleading the fans (or themselves being misled) out of hope they'll make a brief, surprise in appearance, but I know it's highly unlikely.

That being said, I'm not going to prejudge the special. We already know of a lot of great things that will be in the special, and while they're not the original actors, I'm excited about their inclusion. Only time will tell how good this special actually is.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:39 PM   #396
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If you go by the equation space/trek=doctors/anny,
and set both numerators near zero,
what do you get?
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Old May 1 2013, 11:42 PM   #397
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I'm so glad that your knowledge of TV production isn't getting in the way of your nerd rage.
Keep up the good work proving my point for me!
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Old May 2 2013, 12:23 AM   #398
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I will be genuinely surprised if they don't take advantage of having the sets and actors from An Adventure in Time and Space available. If they were going to bring any of the Doctors back to celebrate an anniversary, the first seems the most obvious choice.

My personal hope was for 9, 10 & 11 to be somehow drawn back to the time war where they would foil some evil Timelordy plot and set 8 on his path to using the moment, followed by 11 making a farewell tour of his previous incarnations culminating in his nudging the first Doctor towards the TARDIS with a "just imagine everything out there" monologue and a wink as he gets in his own and wooshes away.
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Old May 2 2013, 12:43 AM   #399
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I'm really looking forward to seven months of Moffat fans telling us that David Tennant, Billie Piper and Tom Baker's scarf are all you need to represent 50 years of history.
Probably about as much as I'm looking forward to seven months of hearing how bad the anniversary special is going to be before anybody even sees it and how Moffat has ruined Doctor Who, hates the classic series and kicked Tom Baker's dog.
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Old May 2 2013, 01:17 AM   #400
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Well now I know who "Whistleblower" is. He's a dillusional poster on GB that goes by the name of R.E.D, who's been trying to push his frankly ridiculous theories about what's "really" happening in the series (including The Doctor being dead since The Big Bang) on people at every possible opportunity.
Yeah the second I saw Omega mentioned in there I knew it was a fake. Fans have been talking about his supposed return for years (along with the Rani and Valeyard), even though it is something that Moffat clearly has no interest in.
A shame. I think Omega would be ideal for A Matt Smith regeneration story.
I only started watching in 2005 so I have a very limited knowledge of classic villains, but I have to admit that I was underwhelmed when I read that "Whistleblower" synopsis. I hope it's fake.

As for Matt Smith's regeneration, the way Eleven has been talking and acting since "The Snowmen" has me thinking that he will buy it at some point saving Clara's life. He already blames himself for her Victorian version's death and Oswin saved his life in "Asylum"....he'll give up his life before she dies again. I'm sure of it.
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Old May 2 2013, 02:01 AM   #401
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Well now I know who "Whistleblower" is. He's a dillusional poster on GB that goes by the name of R.E.D, who's been trying to push his frankly ridiculous theories about what's "really" happening in the series (including The Doctor being dead since The Big Bang) on people at every possible opportunity.
So, in other words, it's probably fake? A shame, I kind of liked it. But, yeah some of the stuff does seem unlikely, particularly the bit that says the portraits of the past Doctors show some of them aging. In order to do that, they are presumably going to get the surviving actors, showing them as they are now. But it is now confirmed the only previous Doctor to return is Tennant.
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Old May 2 2013, 04:37 AM   #402
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I'm so glad that your knowledge of TV production isn't getting in the way of your nerd rage.
Keep up the good work proving my point for me!
Lol. I'll do my best.
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Old May 2 2013, 04:43 AM   #403
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So apparently Moffat's quote about not making the episode a "fanfest" and "looking to the Future" is the official line for making it an 8th Anniversary Special.

If I was Baker I to McGann I'd refuse to take part in any of the 50th Anniversary celebrations that they might be asked to. Moffat casting a brand-new Past Doctor while giving them the Finger really sums the man up perfectly.
Oh, for Pete's sake its not like Moffat is planning on have one of the Doctor's enemies switching bodies with him and their final battle ending with the Doctor beaten and dead when said villain's body dies with the episode ending with the villain still in the Doctor's body saying he'll be better at it than the Doctor ever was effectively both murdering him and stealing his life in the process.
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Old May 2 2013, 08:26 AM   #404
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As for Matt Smith's regeneration, the way Eleven has been talking and acting since "The Snowmen" has me thinking that he will buy it at some point saving Clara's life. He already blames himself for her Victorian version's death and Oswin saved his life in "Asylum"....he'll give up his life before she dies again. I'm sure of it.
I have to admit it does kind of seem like it's heading in that direction, with this season being Eleven's swan song. Although I really hope it's not, because I'd still love to see a lot more with Smith and Coleman together.

Of course we know he's in the 50th special after the Trenzalore episode, so presumably he at least survives that event....
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Off topic: It's Tintin! Not TinTin, Tin-Tin, or any other crazy way to spell it! [/rant]

Now that I have that off my chest, I have to express my disappointment that none of the classic Doctors (to include Paul McGann) are not returning. I'm disillusioned enough to grasp straws in the belief that DWM is misleading the fans (or themselves being misled) out of hope they'll make a brief, surprise in appearance, but I know it's highly unlikely.

That being said, I'm not going to prejudge the special. We already know of a lot of great things that will be in the special, and while they're not the original actors, I'm excited about their inclusion. Only time will tell how good this special actually is.
Oh come on, why wait when you can judge it now and judge it harshly

Trouble is some people have had it in for Moffat since he started (since before then if I recall correctly) so they're actually really glad there are no classic Doctors in the special. Let's be honest some people wouldn't be happy even if Moffat did incorporate every surviving Doctor and managed to resurrect the first three into the bargain, plus include every living companion.

But I guess everyone needs a hobby...

Anyway gonna duck out of this thread now, partly cos the circular arguments get somewhat tiring, but mainly cos, you know, I'd like there to be some surprises left when I actually watch the darn thing.

I may love it, I may hate it, it may merely be 'ok' but that's a decision I'll make after I see it. At the risk of going all Kevin Keegan though I'd love it, LOVE IT, if midway through Tom Baker and Peter Davison suddenly appeared
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