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Old April 23 2013, 06:23 PM   #31
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Re: The Cleveland show is cancelled

This is an opportunity for the FG franchise. One spinoff dies another takes its place. Mort the Jew anyone!?
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Old April 23 2013, 06:37 PM   #32
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*Does the naked dance of joy* About bloody time!
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Old April 23 2013, 11:35 PM   #33
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Can't say I am sorry to see it go. I watched the first few episodes and it was pretty awful.

I hope they bring Cleveland back to Family Guy now. You can never have enough of Peter destroying Cleveland's home while he's taking a bath.
Not that I watch the show anyway, but that would be a cool way to reintroduce him. Have his house destroyed and his bathtub falls. Then Peter walks over and says "when did you move back" and he can say "last week" or something like that.
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Old April 24 2013, 12:00 AM   #34
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well i liked the show.

Not enough to care that it is getting cancelled but i liked it anyway.
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Old May 2 2013, 01:30 AM   #35
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I'm shocked it lasted this long... Next up, Quagmeyer will get his own show!
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Old May 2 2013, 02:09 AM   #36
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Thing is, when you get down to it, Quagmire is a rapist. Having him as a prominent character on a show is ballsy enough, Fox risks backlash giving him his own show. Although the show has tried to show a decent side to him, like the episode where he defends his sister from her abusive boyfriend, he's still a pretty horrible person in general.

Of course, if you really want backlash, a show where Quagmire moves in with Herbert the pedophile ought to set everyone off.
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Old May 2 2013, 03:06 AM   #37
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Thing is, when you get down to it, Quagmire is a rapist....Although the show has tried to show a decent side to him...
Yeah, that is one of the strangest aspects of the show. One moment, Quagmire is roofie-ing some woman and the next he's the gang's voice of reason.

Of course on this show, he's not the only rapist or attempted rapist. Lois had sex with Meg's underaged boyfriend once and there was the time that Peter decided he was a redneck and tried to have sex with Meg. And even Herbert is portrayed as kind of a benign fellow for a child molester.

In short, on this show, Quagmire's not exactly an outlier.
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Old May 2 2013, 01:39 PM   #38
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I saw the abusive boyfriend episode the other night. Even though it had its typically outrageosly funny moments, having Lois Griffin lecture Quagmire's sister on abusive violence, after the countless bloody fights she's had with Peter, boggles the mind. None of the smarter characters bothered to point out the irony.
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Old May 2 2013, 01:49 PM   #39
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Thing is, when you get down to it, Quagmire is a rapist....Although the show has tried to show a decent side to him...
Yeah, that is one of the strangest aspects of the show. One moment, Quagmire is roofie-ing some woman and the next he's the gang's voice of reason.
Although, I do like it when they focus on Quagmire's hatred of Brian, mainly because Quagmire's grievances really do accurately sum Brian up perfectly. Particularly when they first started it with Brian spending an entire episode trying to get Quagmire to like him, then in the end asking Quagmire what his problem is and Quagmire launches into a minute long rant venting his frustrations on Brian.
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Old May 2 2013, 04:15 PM   #40
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Thing is, when you get down to it, Quagmire is a rapist....Although the show has tried to show a decent side to him...
Yeah, that is one of the strangest aspects of the show. One moment, Quagmire is roofie-ing some woman and the next he's the gang's voice of reason.
Although, I do like it when they focus on Quagmire's hatred of Brian, mainly because Quagmire's grievances really do accurately sum Brian up perfectly. Particularly when they first started it with Brian spending an entire episode trying to get Quagmire to like him, then in the end asking Quagmire what his problem is and Quagmire launches into a minute long rant venting his frustrations on Brian.
Yes, that was actually the moment where I first saw the whole "Quagmire paradox" and quite enjoyed it, for the reasons you mentioned.

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I saw the abusive boyfriend episode the other night. Even though it had its typically outrageosly funny moments, having Lois Griffin lecture Quagmire's sister on abusive violence, after the countless bloody fights she's had with Peter, boggles the mind. None of the smarter characters bothered to point out the irony.
The writers of FG are neither as smart nor as self aware as they would like to think they are.
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Old May 2 2013, 06:29 PM   #41
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I'm not certain of that. It's sort of polarized in the show's approach. One day they'll mention the DuMont Network from the 50s, but more often they'll toss in the weekly bleeped-out words plus say ''bitch'' for good measure. Anyhow, I see it as smart people catering to some in the audience who will not get all the humor. Chris and Peter types, but especially Chris types. My hatred of Chris as a character is in the stratosphere....
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Old May 2 2013, 07:43 PM   #42
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Oh, I am sure they are extremely well educated but they don't seem to understand that their occasional forays into "very special episode" territory are neither funny nor insightful and, in fact, on a show like this, are even more off putting than on something like "Blossom" or "Different Strokes."
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Old May 2 2013, 10:35 PM   #43
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I think one of the first shows to go Very Special was THE FACTS OF LIFE, which was never a great show, yet did a great VSE way back about 1981 or so involving self-defense against would-be rapists. What made it funny AND in character were the key actresses's reactions to hypothetical attack situations. For a public service announcement, it did the job well.

But now in the 2010s we have Mr. Giggety as our new moral compass. It still beats hearing ''Look at me, I'm {whoever} for the 13,864th time. Or playing an entire song just to fill time.
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Old May 2 2013, 10:47 PM   #44
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What is the word on McFarlane's Flintstones remake? Is it possible Fox is just axing Cleveland to make room for that? In which case, we're just replacing Black Family Guy with Caveman Family Guy.
The rub is, most black people didn't like The Cleavland Show, from what I can gather. I once came across a comment in an article about the show Daria that was focused on the one black character in it wishing that she had her own show, instead of something like The Cleavland Show (the article in question is here: On Race, Feminism, and Jodie Landon).

For myself, I've only seen one episode of The Cleavland Show, and all I can say is 'meh'.


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I think one of the first shows to go Very Special was THE FACTS OF LIFE, which was never a great show, yet did a great VSE way back about 1981 or so involving self-defense against would-be rapists. What made it funny AND in character were the key actresses's reactions to hypothetical attack situations. For a public service announcement, it did the job well.

But now in the 2010s we have Mr. Giggety as our new moral compass. It still beats hearing ''Look at me, I'm {whoever} for the 13,864th time. Or playing an entire song just to fill time.
The Facts Of Life wasn't the first to do this at all; the very first ones of this type of episode were in the 1960's, one of them being 'The Shark Affair' from The Man From UNCLE, a few episodes of All In The Family, the abortion episode of Maude, and the episode 'Elegy For A Pig' of Adam 12.

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Old May 3 2013, 03:30 AM   #45
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What is the word on McFarlane's Flintstones remake? Is it possible Fox is just axing Cleveland to make room for that? In which case, we're just replacing Black Family Guy with Caveman Family Guy.
The rub is, most black people didn't like The Cleavland Show, from what I can gather. I once came across a comment in an article about the show Daria that was focused on the one black character in it wishing that she had her own show, instead of something like The Cleavland Show (the article in question is here: On Race, Feminism, and Jodie Landon).
All I meant when I called The Cleveland Show "Black Family Guy" was that it's Family Guy but with a black lead character. It's actually a common joke, along with calling American Dad "CIA Agent Family Guy" or "Republican Family Guy."
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