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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.28%
A 161 21.55%
A- 101 13.52%
B+ 83 11.11%
B 58 7.76%
B- 27 3.61%
C+ 40 5.35%
C 38 5.09%
C- 25 3.35%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 36 4.82%
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Old May 1 2013, 09:18 PM   #841
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Oh really. I suppose that depends on your definition of the word "success."
Everything does. Success is a ridiculously broad term, and the moment someone generalized about it as a way of criticizing the movie they shot way wide.

If you said "one cannot expect to become a medical doctor without going through the required educational process and training," I certainly wouldn't contradict you; that would be dumb.

If, OTOH, you want to claim that "formal education is a prerequisite for success" - well yes, I can define "success" in about a thousand ways that make you wrong, and every one of them is entirely valid.
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Old May 1 2013, 09:23 PM   #842
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Anyone who's awake and paying any attention at all to the world around them knows by experience that a college education isn't necessary to success, so that's a given.
Oh really. I suppose that depends on your definition of the word "success." But, go ahead and define it so that your side of the argument is correct. To begin with, I'd ask you to name 5 (career) jobs that don't require a college education for entry.

But this will likely go beyond the scope of the forum.
Then now would be a great time to go start a thread about it in a forum appropriate to that topic.

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So has anyone seen the pictures of the new Klingons?
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Yep. They look pretty good, at least in low-rez.
Ridges?
Ruffles.
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Old May 1 2013, 09:33 PM   #843
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

another positive review.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...st-review.html
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Old May 1 2013, 09:41 PM   #844
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and yet another.

http://www.cqnews.com.au/news/first-...kness/1850881/
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Old May 1 2013, 09:58 PM   #845
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Yes they are all excellent reviews

I did spot one critic on twitter comparing it to Iron Man 2. It was the Daily Telegraphs critic, so there is a negative review incoming.
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Old May 1 2013, 10:08 PM   #846
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Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg, Turner, Lauren, Ellison, Geffen...

Yeah, yeah, all famous exceptions. Well, the most successful woman I know personally has a GED.
Ironically, none of those guy's companies take applications from folks without certified education, even though the company founders didn't have one either.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:01 PM   #847
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Comparing successful business entrepreneurs starting on their own to an employee working one's self up the ranks of an established organization doesn't really make sense anyways.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:06 PM   #848
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The fact that Abrams gave him a walk-on in one needn't sway his opinion unless one views such things as quid pro quo.
You already challenged that point, and I responded.

My main point of my post was that only a decade ago, fans were being asked to be open-minded about his fanfilms. Sure, he's allowed to hate JJ's films. Deliberately spoilerizing fans about the new film via his Facebook page is disappointing.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:15 PM   #849
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My main point of my post was that only a decade ago, fans were being asked to be open-minded about his fanfilms. Sure, he's allowed to hate JJ's films. Deliberately spoilerizing fans about the new film via his Facebook page is disappointing.
I never read his post. Did he deliberately spoil it? Or was it mis-direction like the actors saying it's Mitchell or some other character in previous interviews?
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Old May 1 2013, 11:21 PM   #850
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Sounds like he had a tantrum...
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Old May 1 2013, 11:24 PM   #851
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Reviews are better than I expected. A very good sign that..

Edit: Continuing to read: Wow, these are REALLY good, one calls it JJAbrams BEST FILM YET. One states: "Star Trek Into Darkness may well set the benchmark for rollercoaster sci-fi that will indeed challenge your view of how space adventures can and should be delivered."

One calls the movie: "modest" LOL the $185 million blockbuster that's on a bigger scale than the ST09 movie..
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Old May 1 2013, 11:28 PM   #852
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Sounds like he had a tantrum...
Too bad. Guess he let his passion get the better of him.
Wish they would release another movie.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:33 PM   #853
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The Denofgeek one has a good summary:


Appreciating that Iron Man 3 kicked summer blockbuster season 2013 off by subverting the comic book movie genre and, in places, turning it on its head, what Star Trek Into Darkness has done is no less impressive. It's played its hand a lot straighter, with a three act story bustling with characters it's fun to spent time with, unified by a director who not only knows how to shoot an action sequence, but who also continues to prove he's a damn good storyteller. The end result? An exciting, entertaining and pretty excellent blockbuster. Let the clamour for another movie start right here...
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Old May 2 2013, 12:09 AM   #854
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*klingons klingons klingons* Spoilers spoilers spoilers*

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Th_Mhdz1Hr...er+Klingon.jpg
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Old May 2 2013, 02:16 AM   #855
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Been reading the reviews and digging for spoilers (which is getting easier and easier). Just visually the movie's going to kick ass. I am concerned they've crammed to much into one movie. Seems like it could make 2 movies easily.

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Like I said, there are very few exceptions to the rule.
You're wrong; college is not a "rule" - it's an increasingly dysfunctional educational/career/training path.

BTW, you know they're making these movies about people who are exceptions don't you? The idea that it's someone's job to send kids the message "work hard, stay in school and you can be Captain Kirk" is absurd.
I know people in HR that consider a college degree to be the new high school diploma. Every six months they get flooded with a batch of the new grads or soon to be grads with fresh degrees in whatever "guaranteed money making career" they got talked into majoring in when they sent out their college applications back in highschool. Best advice I ever got regarding college: 1) Unless it's your passion, just audit classes and pick up certifications, screw the degree. 2) Practice saying "Would you like to upsize to a large combo?" cause that's about what your degree will be worth when you get out.
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