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Old May 1 2013, 02:25 PM   #16
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Re: Clip #4 - Meeting Carol

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I'm sure this seems a rather silly post, but I am thinking outloud..

Is it safe to assume that Kirk and Carol Marcus are not romantically involved in this movie as it appears that he is meeting her for the first time?

And yes Spock appears to be incredibly jealous...nice touch that she sits between them. Is this symbolic of her role in the movie? Does she indeed come between Kirk and Spock?

Bones looks a little curious or perhaps put off as well...

Thoughts on this anyone....
Perhaps that's why in TWOK, Mr. Spock and Carol's greeting is a bit cold when she beams aboard the Enterprise.
That memory crossed my mind, too. At the time I thought it was a less than cordial greeting, even for Spock. I don't recall if Spock Prime even looked her in the eyes when he greeted her in TWOK.

The only people to whom the name "Carol Marcus" means anything is fans, and maybe just the old ones. From what I've read about how the story unfolds, I don't see any reason why she couldn't have been a brand new character (and just give Admirial Marcus the same surname if it's important that she's his daughter).

(Actually, way, way back, didn't Orci or someone say Eve's character was new to canon? Maybe not.)

So why her? I'm overthinking it, and I know this wasn't any of the creators' motivation, but what I find interesting in choosing to make her Carol Marcus is how she represents a contrast between the two universes. In the prime universe, Carol Marcus is a brilliant molecular biologist dedicated to improving and even creating life. In the post-Nero universe, she's a weapons specialist. Leads me to believe that Starfleet and/or the Federation may have had a type of U.S. post-Sputnik campaign to get the best and brightest to go into the defense and security fields in the post-Nero world.
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Old May 1 2013, 02:29 PM   #17
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Re: Clip #4 - Meeting Carol

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(Actually, way, way back, didn't Orci or someone say Eve's character was new to canon? Maybe not.)
Nope

TrekMovie.com: OK, I want to try and get something out of you that is actually new about the movie. Kind of like you did on the radio show but I will name a guest actor in the sequel and you will say if they are playing a new character you created or one from the original Star Trek canon.
Roberto Orci: OK, I’ll play.
TrekMovie.com: OK let’s start with Alice Eve. Canon or new?
Roberto Orci: Canon
TrekMovie.com: Noel Clarke?
Roberto Orci: New
TrekMovie.com: I assume that also goes for Nanzeen Contractor, who plays his wife?
Roberto Orci: Yes, new.
TrekMovie.com: Peter Weller
Roberto Orci: New.
TrekMovie.com: Joseph Gatt
Roberto Orci: New.
TrekMovie.com: OK and the big one, Benedict Cumberbatch.
Roberto Orci: Canon.
http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/14/excl...st-production/

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In the prime universe, Carol Marcus is a brilliant molecular biologist dedicated to improving and even creating life. In the post-Nero universe, she's a weapons specialist. Leads me to believe that Starfleet and/or the Federation may have had a type of U.S. post-Sputnik campaign to get the best and brightest to go into the defense and security fields in the post-Nero world.
We don't know that much about Marcus' earlier life in the Prime universe. She could have started a weapons specialist there too, saw things she didn't like in Starfleet and changed her path in life.
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Old May 1 2013, 02:50 PM   #18
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Re: Clip #4 - Meeting Carol

SalvorHardin wrote: View Post
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(Actually, way, way back, didn't Orci or someone say Eve's character was new to canon? Maybe not.)
Nope


TrekMovie.com: OK, I want to try and get something out of you that is actually new about the movie. Kind of like you did on the radio show but I will name a guest actor in the sequel and you will say if they are playing a new character you created or one from the original Star Trek canon.


Roberto Orci: OK, I’ll play.


TrekMovie.com: OK let’s start with Alice Eve. Canon or new?


Roberto Orci: Canon


TrekMovie.com: Noel Clarke?


Roberto Orci: New


TrekMovie.com: I assume that also goes for Nanzeen Contractor, who plays his wife?


Roberto Orci: Yes, new.


TrekMovie.com: Peter Weller


Roberto Orci: New.


TrekMovie.com: Joseph Gatt


Roberto Orci: New.


TrekMovie.com: OK and the big one, Benedict Cumberbatch.


Roberto Orci: Canon.
http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/14/excl...st-production/

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In the prime universe, Carol Marcus is a brilliant molecular biologist dedicated to improving and even creating life. In the post-Nero universe, she's a weapons specialist. Leads me to believe that Starfleet and/or the Federation may have had a type of U.S. post-Sputnik campaign to get the best and brightest to go into the defense and security fields in the post-Nero world.
We don't know that much about Marcus' earlier life in the Prime universe. She could have started a weapons specialist there too, saw things she didn't like in Starfleet and changed her path in life.
Thanks for finding that exchange with Orci. I honestly couldn't remember for sure what he said.

Yeah that's true, we don't know anything about young Marcus in the prime universe. Further, a weapons specialist dedicated to creating devices that will kill may have a moment in her life when she decides to "give back" something to life and basically do a 180 in her profession.
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