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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.36%
A 157 21.87%
A- 98 13.65%
B+ 78 10.86%
B 58 8.08%
B- 27 3.76%
C+ 38 5.29%
C 37 5.15%
C- 23 3.20%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
Voters: 718. You may not vote on this poll

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Old May 1 2013, 04:00 AM   #796
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

I am on Tumblr where every day, I see the excited ramblings of 16-18 year old newly minted Trekkers who saw the '09 film, and now are watching up all of the original series on Netflix.

It's pretty cool. Can't argue with that.
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Old May 1 2013, 04:18 AM   #797
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There is something to this. But I think it has to do with devolving Star Trek for mass consumption.
So, are we saying that Nemesis and Insurrection were more evolved Trek? Or Enterprise? Really? Was First Contact the cutoff or did the devolution begin earlier?

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Old May 1 2013, 04:26 AM   #798
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ConRefit79 wrote: View Post
There is something to this. But I think it has to do with devolving Star Trek for mass consumption.
So, are we saying that Nemesis and Insurrection were more evolved Trek? Or Enterprise? Really? Was First Contact the cutoff or did the devolution begin earlier?

"They reboot the franchise, and we fall back. They destroy Vulcan, and we fall back. They change the trinity to Kirk, Spock, and Uhura, and we fall back. Not again. Not this time. The line must be drawn HERE, this far and no further!"
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Old May 1 2013, 04:32 AM   #799
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ConRefit79 wrote: View Post
There is something to this. But I think it has to do with devolving Star Trek for mass consumption.
So, are we saying that Nemesis and Insurrection were more evolved Trek? Or Enterprise? Really? Was First Contact the cutoff or did the devolution begin earlier?

"They reboot the franchise, and we fall back. They destroy Vulcan, and we fall back. They change the trinity to Kirk, Spock, and Uhura, and we fall back. Not again. Not this time. The line must be drawn HERE, this far and no further!"
And I will make them pay $8.50 per ticket for what they have done!
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Old May 1 2013, 04:36 AM   #800
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I still haven't had anyone convince me Star Trek devolved with these films...
Cadet Kirk promoted to captain?
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Old May 1 2013, 04:39 AM   #801
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There's an old expression, "Hang around barbershops long enough and you're going to get a haircut."
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A wise person once said that the easiest way to prove that you're in a club is to keep someone else out.
This is why I like Dennis. He's always ready to impart some folksy wisdom. He's like an even more ornery Yoda.
That's because he probably inwented half of them.
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Old May 1 2013, 04:39 AM   #802
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Locutus of Bored wrote: View Post

So, are we saying that Nemesis and Insurrection were more evolved Trek? Or Enterprise? Really? Was First Contact the cutoff or did the devolution begin earlier?

"They reboot the franchise, and we fall back. They destroy Vulcan, and we fall back. They change the trinity to Kirk, Spock, and Uhura, and we fall back. Not again. Not this time. The line must be drawn HERE, this far and no further!"
And I will make them pay $8.50 per ticket for what they have done!
And that's just for a matinee where I am!
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Old May 1 2013, 04:41 AM   #803
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I still haven't had anyone convince me Star Trek devolved with these films...
Cadet Kirk promoted to captain?
Such as a not-even-one term US Senator elected as POTUS?
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Old May 1 2013, 04:47 AM   #804
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There is something to this. But I think it has to do with devolving Star Trek for mass consumption.
So, are we saying that Nemesis and Insurrection were more evolved Trek? Or Enterprise? Really? Was First Contact the cutoff or did the devolution begin earlier?

I said before, initially I enjoyed ST 2009. But it wore off fast. They did not write a story with characters I could care about. Other movies have been able to that.
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Old May 1 2013, 04:49 AM   #805
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I still haven't had anyone convince me Star Trek devolved with these films...
Cadet Kirk promoted to captain?
Such as a not-even-one term US Senator elected as POTUS?
Big difference in winning a popularity contest and earning promotion in the military.
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Old May 1 2013, 04:50 AM   #806
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I said before, initially I enjoyed ST 2009. But it wore off fast. They did not write a story with characters I could care about. Other movies have been able to that.
It wore off fast because you initially have monkeys in your back that prevent you from enjoying it fully. [sybok]That's why...you need to let go of your pain [/sybok]
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Old May 1 2013, 05:06 AM   #807
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Cadet Kirk promoted to captain?
Such as a not-even-one term US Senator elected as POTUS?
Big difference in winning a popularity contest and earning promotion in the military.
Of course leading the free world and the most powerful military and economy ON EARTH is such a cake-walk right?
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Old May 1 2013, 05:07 AM   #808
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Cadet Kirk promoted to captain?
Such as a not-even-one term US Senator elected as POTUS?
Big difference in winning a popularity contest and earning promotion in the military.
True. It's MUCH more difficult to become the US president.
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Old May 1 2013, 05:34 AM   #809
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Such as a not-even-one term US Senator elected as POTUS?
Big difference in winning a popularity contest and earning promotion in the military.
True. It's MUCH more difficult to become the US president.
The fact is that they both had to DO something to get the job.

(yes, I know, reality/fiction).
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Old May 1 2013, 05:54 AM   #810
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This is why I like Dennis. He's always ready to impart some folksy wisdom. He's like an even more ornery Yoda.
Okay, that's an avatar I want to see (even if it has to get off his lawn.)
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