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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "Journey To The Centre Of The TARDIS"
Geronimo! 39 33.05%
Good 46 38.98%
Average 24 20.34%
Not worth salvaging 7 5.93%
This episode should have stayed in the center of the TARDIS 2 1.69%
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Old April 29 2013, 09:57 PM   #196
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Re: 7X10 Journey To The Centre Of The TARDIS(Grading/Discussion)(SPOIL

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I do. It's called Doctor Who. Be it wrapped in a TARDIS, a Battlestar, a starship... it's still soap opera when it comes down to it.
It's way too episodic for that. The stand-alone stories with largely no reoccurring characters are more prominent than any continuing arcs.
Bad Wolf
YANA--The Master
Doctor Donna
The Cracks in the Wall
River Song
The Silence

Yeah... no continuing arcs here...

Oh. Wait. Forgot one: the Impossible Girl...

And besides, more specifically, I was talking characters... But that's ok, there are arcs aplenty in nuWho.


Um, there's this thing called character arcs that you seem to be referring to.

Which are less prominent in the show than one-off stories.
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Old April 29 2013, 10:05 PM   #197
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It's way too episodic for that. The stand-alone stories with largely no reoccurring characters are more prominent than any continuing arcs.
Bad Wolf
YANA--The Master
Doctor Donna
The Cracks in the Wall
River Song
The Silence

Yeah... no continuing arcs here...

Oh. Wait. Forgot one: the Impossible Girl...

And besides, more specifically, I was talking characters... But that's ok, there are arcs aplenty in nuWho.


Um, there's this thing called character arcs that you seem to be referring to.

Which are less prominent in the show than one-off stories.


Um. Right. But arcs nevertheless. Arcs that we are tuning in for. Arcs that we, as fans, want to come to a satisfying resolution. If that's not soap opera....
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Old April 29 2013, 10:57 PM   #198
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Probably wasn't in love with a 19 year old thick chav though.
never said it was. so what's your point?
Sorry, I thought it was obvious. The point is that the character is not devalued by being in love, he's devalued by being in love with some mid-twenties idiots or even any human really. If the Time Lords are all that, they ought to be above romantic inclinations toward thick but blandly attractive women.
again, find the part where i said he should fall in love with a stupid human in their mid twenties.

i just said was the idea of casting aside all possibility of the doctor falling in love was dumb. sorry, i thought it was obvious, due to it being what i said.
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Old April 30 2013, 12:11 AM   #199
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Maybe that's why I like her so much, she's just an ordinary person this time, or acts ordinary, every companion has had some kind of god like complex, I just want an ordinary person stuff happens to around her and she reacts to it for a change, that's what I'm getting with Clara finally. Sometimes you just need normalcy.

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I like that she doesn't listen and I like her suspicion of the Doctor.
Yeah I think that might my favorite aspect of her character right now. She's obviously enchanted by this new world she finds herself in, but the Doctor himself she's not so sure about. And it's not just a superficial kind of doubt like Donna or other companions tend to have early on.

Unlike the others, Clara actually seems to regard him as the strange and mysterious alien he is.

And I know people feel the reset erased all the progress made with her character, but for me, after seeing her go through such a wild, complex range of emotions in this episode, she still comes across in the end feeling MUCH more interesting and complex and sharply defined than before.

So it doesn't feel like a waste to me at all.

I'm agreeing with a lot of this. I like that she doesn't seem so clingy about it, this adventure has been thrilling but doesn't seem to have subsumed her existence.
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Old April 30 2013, 03:22 AM   #200
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I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen reference to the piece of paper that drops from above (offscreen) onto the TARDIS console right before the cut to next week's preview. If I missed reference to it here or in another thread, my apologies.

Any wild speculation? Note from the TARDIS? Perhaps the TARDIS dropping a page ripped from the History of the Time War (the one referencing the Doctor's name) so that Clara won't find it again?
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Old April 30 2013, 03:46 AM   #201
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I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen reference to the piece of paper that drops from above (offscreen) onto the TARDIS console right before the cut to next week's preview. If I missed reference to it here or in another thread, my apologies.

Any wild speculation? Note from the TARDIS? Perhaps the TARDIS dropping a page ripped from the History of the Time War (the one referencing the Doctor's name) so that Clara won't find it again?
That isn't a piece of paper that's the rag the Doctor was using to wipe the console (and smack Clara on the bottom!). It's not even offscreen you can see him hook it in the air.
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Old April 30 2013, 04:52 AM   #202
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Interesting thing I read over at that other Doctor Who board:

You call yourself Doctor.
Why do you do that?
You have a name. I've seen it.
In one corner of that tiny...

Does this suggest maybe Clara got the name from the small TARDIS toy and not the book?
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Old April 30 2013, 06:57 AM   #203
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I knew it, his name is Police Public Call Box
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Old April 30 2013, 09:39 AM   #204
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Interesting thing I read over at that other Doctor Who board:

You call yourself Doctor.
Why do you do that?
You have a name. I've seen it.
In one corner of that tiny...

Does this suggest maybe Clara got the name from the small TARDIS toy and not the book?
No, I don't think so. The scene doesn't convey the toy Tardis in any sense. It's only overt statement is the book.

As far as recurrent themes with Clara go, music again features, the music that was playing moments before the accident guide them to where they need to be. In the last episode the music room was the heart of the house.
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Old April 30 2013, 10:10 AM   #205
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Great episode I always want to see more of the Tardis. There's a lot of potential for stories in the ship and i like the mystery of it. I didn't understand why the Tardis helped the Doctor at some points but tried to confuse him at other times.
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Old April 30 2013, 12:53 PM   #206
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Great episode I always want to see more of the Tardis. There's a lot of potential for stories in the ship and i like the mystery of it. I didn't understand why the Tardis helped the Doctor at some points but tried to confuse him at other times.
The Doctor explained she was acting like a wounded animal
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Old April 30 2013, 01:32 PM   #207
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Oh... You don't believe in those... LOOM things, do you?
Yup. Fucking love Lungbarrow, Marc Platt's writing and the Virgin New Adventures range in general.

Of course, the Looms have absolutely nothing to do with romance one way or the other and you'd know that if you had indeed read the books you're referencing. It's just a strange, alien way that Time Lords reproduce, which is fine as they're aliens and shouldn't have the same biology and mating culture as us.

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dumbest thing i've read on here for weeks.
OK slick, that's a bold way you start your post. Let's see where you go with this, don't say something hilariously ill-informed now..

the doctor must've been in love once to get that grandchild.
...

So like, a sheep has to have been in love to have made a baby sheep? A termite has to have been in love to have reproduced? Where the hell did you learn biology? From Walt Disney?
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So like, a sheep has to have been in love to have made a baby sheep? A termite has to have been in love to have reproduced? Where the hell did you learn biology? From Walt Disney?
I think it was just a polite way to inform you that girls are not icky.
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Old April 30 2013, 02:11 PM   #209
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I never implied they were? I don't mind humans having romance stories, I just think the more human The Doctor gets, the less interesting he becomes. I don't see how it implies I'm asexual, homosexual, misogynist or afraid of women.

I love and enjoy women .
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Old April 30 2013, 02:14 PM   #210
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I love and enjoy women .
But the Doctor can't? M'kay...
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