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Old April 22 2013, 02:35 PM   #166
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Re: Star Trek Federation: The First 150 Years

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I had a look at it the other day in a bookstore like what I saw so I ordered one and getting it in a few days.
Cool! I'd like to know what you think about when you have it.

In wonder how many and which NX-class vessels are mentioned in there?
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Old April 27 2013, 09:31 PM   #167
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Books a million won't carry it.
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Old April 29 2013, 03:00 AM   #168
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Got my copy of star trek federation the first 150 years.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:58 AM   #169
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I just got a copy for my birthday. It looks quite impressive, though there's no way I'd ever have paid that much for it. I look forward to reading through it.
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Old April 29 2013, 04:05 PM   #170
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Still waiting for a Kindle version of the book...
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Old April 29 2013, 07:43 PM   #171
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Still waiting for a Kindle version of the book...
And many people are still waiting for the hard copies of several, quiet old now novels!
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Old April 29 2013, 07:45 PM   #172
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^ This is true.

I wouldn't even be asking this if I didn't see that the 'core' of this release - the actual book itself, as opposed to all the extras that come with it - is also being offered as a standalone release (not due out until this fall). That's what piqued my Kindle interest.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:54 PM   #173
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It is completely worth reading, this book is a must for the Star Trek fan, especially since CBS has called it canon
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Old April 29 2013, 08:01 PM   #174
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^ They have?
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Old April 29 2013, 08:01 PM   #175
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especially since CBS has called it canon
Huh? Since when?
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especially since CBS has called it canon
Huh? Since when?
When I talked to David on our show that is what he said. Here is the link to the show
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Old April 29 2013, 08:47 PM   #177
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^Could you provide an exact quote, please? It's a 90-minute podcast and I'm just asking about one statement. As you've described it, it doesn't make sense. CBS doesn't have some office that defines what is canon. That's the purview of whoever's currently creating new Trek content, which is currently J.J. Abrams and his team. CBS's licensing department makes sure that tie-ins are consistent with canon, but the canon is defined as what's onscreen.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:51 PM   #178
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^Could you provide an exact quote, please? It's a 90-minute podcast and I'm just asking about one statement. As you've described it, it doesn't make sense. CBS doesn't have some office that defines what is canon. That's the purview of whoever's currently creating new Trek content, which is currently J.J. Abrams and his team. CBS's licensing department makes sure that tie-ins are consistent with canon, but the canon is defined as what's onscreen.
I'd have to go back and listen myself, but he said that it's canon till someone overwrites it on film. Obviously film is always the foundation but that this was meant to give the background and history of the Federation.
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^Could you provide an exact quote, please? It's a 90-minute podcast and I'm just asking about one statement. As you've described it, it doesn't make sense. CBS doesn't have some office that defines what is canon. That's the purview of whoever's currently creating new Trek content, which is currently J.J. Abrams and his team. CBS's licensing department makes sure that tie-ins are consistent with canon, but the canon is defined as what's onscreen.
It starts about the 71:20 minute mark, and what he actually said was that they told him that "it was "canon" until somebody films something that says it not". Listening to what he says afterwards I'm kind of wondering if Goodman even is aware what canon actually is, since if you use his requirements (published/licensed by the producer of Star Trek (CBS) and not contradicting on-screen stuff) almost every novel is canon.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:01 PM   #180
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So really, aside from his choice of words, he's not saying anything about this book that isn't equally true of every other tie-in.

After all, The First 150 Years contradicts Pocket's post-ENT novels which predated it; yet my Rise of the Federation novels are consistent with those novels and nobody told me that I had to ignore them and be consistent with TF150Y instead. And tie-ins always have to be consistent with canon. Therefore, TF150Y is not canon.
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