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Old April 29 2013, 06:33 PM   #16
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

Shortly after watching Star Trek Eleven, some of my friends and I got into a discussion about a particular scene. Accessing a pirate video (from a undisclosed source) put a quick end to the disagreement.

The video was both free and badly made.

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Old April 29 2013, 06:44 PM   #17
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

I watch those crappy cam movies because I want to know the story and plot. If I want to see the movie I will gladly pay for it. This happened for me with Tron and surprisely Green Lantern. I saw Ironman 3 about a week ago. And if friends ask me if I want to go I will.

Here is the thing I will preview the movie online, but I will pay to see in theater anyways.
I am fully spoiled anyways so it makes no difference to me now.

I know many will say it ruins the experience, but personally I don't need to see surprises or twists on screen anymore.
I go to the theater to enjoy big sound and picture not plots, twists and surprises, that I can do from home.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:09 PM   #18
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

Leaving the ethics of it aside for a moment (though that doesn't apply as much in this case since I'd see it in theaters regardless of whether I saw a bootleg first), I wouldn't want to see a crappy bootleg version of STiD anyway. The score, the audio, the FX, and the cinematography/visuals were meant for a big screen surround sound presentation. It would take away from the experience and might negatively affect my opinion to see such a poor quality version.

It's going to be a bummer not being able to fully participate in discussions with people from other countries who have seen in when it goes wide release, but then, that's no different from how they must feel when they have to wait while the US gets the movies first, so that's fair. I chose to read the spoilers from the premieres this time though so I could at least understand the gist of the story and participate in the discussions to some degree.

I just don't understand the widely staggered release policy from the position of the studios, especially in this day and age when piracy is so rampant. I don't think it will have a huge impact on the box office or anything, but it might have some, and making the movie more likely to be bootlegged before its release in its largest single market doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I assume it's partially for promotional purposes like wanting the top tier cast and crew to be able to make appearances at all the premieres and promote the film in local media, but it just seems counter-productive to me. And I'm not saying this just because the US is getting the film later, I think they should try and make the release dates as close together as possible everywhere.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:11 PM   #19
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

Resistance is NOT futile.

I'll see it in the theatre and get the Blu-Ray later.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:15 PM   #20
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

Locutus of Bored wrote: View Post

I just don't understand the widely staggered release policy from the position of the studios, especially in this day and age when piracy is so rampant. I don't think it will have a huge impact on the box office or anything, but it might have some, and making the movie more likely to be bootlegged before its release in its largest single market doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Agreed. Someone was peddling Iron Man yesterday <blip> - before it is even released in theatres here - claming it was a 'good cam version,'' of the film.

If anything, Trek fans [I'd imagine] are even even more rabid to get their hands on anything that comes out first.

I suppose the 3-D versions of films have to some degree mitigated this problem becuase obviously you cannot cam record a 3-d film but an international release first of Iron Man and now Trek seems kind of odd.

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Old April 29 2013, 07:37 PM   #21
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Re: Will you be able to resist boot legged copies of STID?

I won't. I have a moral issue with it, and I also don't care for the extreme low quality of handycam recordings.

The only movie I've ever seen outside of a theater prior to it being released on DVD was Taken, and that's because I didn't actually know it hadn't come out when a friend brought it over on DVD and my roommates threw it in the player. It was also a DVD-quality video and not a handycam recording, despite the fact that it wasn't even in theaters yet. I didn't find out until afterwards, so I went and saw it in theaters when it came out to sort of "clear my conscience," even though it wasn't really the kind of movie I would have seen that way. As a musician though, I take a hard line against piracy (even though I've never released material for sale, but that's my choice).
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Old April 29 2013, 07:52 PM   #22
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As an aside, anyone understand why movie studios are making major releases outside of North America as opposed to in the US first now as a marketing strategy?

Because this strategy will increase the boot legging of films here.
Because most major films actually make more money overseas than in the US now. Studios don't mind bootlegging of films as much, because they know people don't like camrips, but if there's a screener copy leaked, they'll flip their shit. That said, the bootlegs could help boost DVD/BD sales down the road by exposing more people to the movie, so it's not a total loss.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:53 PM   #23
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Gave up on bootlegs because Jerry and Kramer never got me a copy of "DEATHBLOW" and "CRY, CRY AGAIN".

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Old April 29 2013, 07:57 PM   #24
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Because most major films actually make more money overseas than in the US now. Studios don't mind bootlegging of films as much, because they know people don't like camrips, but if there's a screener copy leaked, they'll flip their shit. That said, the bootlegs could help boost DVD/BD sales down the road by exposing more people to the movie, so it's not a total loss.
Iron Man's record breaking $200 million weekend take seems to confirm that assertion.

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No doubt, Disney is popping the champagne corks.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:06 PM   #25
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Resistance is NOT futile.

I'll see it in the theatre and get the Blu-Ray later.
Me, too. In fact there is a high probability that I'll be seeing this one a few times in the theatre. For sure, once each in 3D and 2D - and I know one of my grown kids will insist we go together as well.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:30 PM   #26
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Because most major films actually make more money overseas than in the US now.
While that is true, the US is still by far the largest individual national market for movies in terms of box office, which is why it's a little strange to have the movie start a few weeks later here, because that basically guarantees that the pirates will have a much greater number of buyers/downloaders while people are eagerly waiting the film's release.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:57 PM   #27
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While that is true, the US is still by far the largest individual national market for movies in terms of box office, which is why it's a little strange to have the movie start a few weeks later here, because that basically guarantees that the pirates will have a much greater number of buyers/downloaders while people are eagerly waiting the film's release.
Addiionally it's much harder for US film companies to enforce copyright law and shut down international websites than domestically
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Old April 29 2013, 09:08 PM   #28
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Well when Ironman 3 was first released online it was in Russian, tried to watch it and it was unwatchable, so I just went to the end to watch the closing action scene.
2 days later it was up in English.

I won't watch Star Trek in Russian that's my line in the sand.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:14 PM   #29
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Didn't Chekov tell you? Star Trek is originally from Russia!
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Old April 29 2013, 09:38 PM   #30
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I don't have the patience to watch a muddy, shaky-cam picture with muffled audio. So yeah, resistance is a piece of cake.
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