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Old April 27 2013, 10:27 PM   #16
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

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The implosion I think so--but it seems we are moving towards heat death or a big rip.

I think the Douwds have the best shot at the Q. The Organian attempt to stop conflict and the Excalbian attempts to foment it cancelled each other out, according to DC, leaving things freer.

The Excalbians weren't on the high-end of powerful beings in Star Trek. At least, nothing that was shown depicted them as such. Sure, they had strong mental abilities, but so did the Talosians. The Organians could easily defeat the Excalbians in a conflict. I doubt they would 'cancel out.'
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Old April 28 2013, 05:04 AM   #17
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All you really need to do is give Lwaxana Troi either the power of an Organian or a Douwd and send her after Q - problem solved!
Lwaxana may not be powerful in her own right, but she seems to have the ablility to prevent others from doing anything about her...I think shed be immune to Q's powers....
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Old April 28 2013, 05:14 AM   #18
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

This topic assumes that the rest of the continuum can't interfere, they don't count.

Are all the other omnipotent beings part of this fight? Kevin Uxbridge, for instance? If the other omnipotent beings count, I think they could outnumber Q.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:44 AM   #19
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This topic assumes that the rest of the continuum can't interfere, they don't count.

Are all the other omnipotent beings part of this fight? Kevin Uxbridge, for instance? If the other omnipotent beings count, I think they could outnumber Q.
Yes, it's literally every living being in Star Trek versus the main Q, with the other Q not willing or able to interfere. Even the tribbles are involved, though obviously they won't have any effect on the outcome.

Kevin Uxbridge was very powerful, but he wasn't omnipotent. If he were, then he could have dispatched of the Husnock quite easily, or transported his entire planet far from the warships, or made it invisible, etc. Why didn't he do these things?
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Old May 1 2013, 01:28 AM   #20
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This topic assumes that the rest of the continuum can't interfere, they don't count.

Are all the other omnipotent beings part of this fight? Kevin Uxbridge, for instance? If the other omnipotent beings count, I think they could outnumber Q.
Yes, it's literally every living being in Star Trek versus the main Q, with the other Q not willing or able to interfere. Even the tribbles are involved, though obviously they won't have any effect on the outcome.

Kevin Uxbridge was very powerful, but he wasn't omnipotent. If he were, then he could have dispatched of the Husnock quite easily, or transported his entire planet far from the warships, or made it invisible, etc. Why didn't he do these things?
Because his pacifism didn't break until it was all over. But I suppose, he was unable to undo the destruction of his colony except by creating illusions.

But if he were to team up with neer-seen others of his kind, Transfigurations guy, the 10,000 omnipotent TOS creatures, the Traveler, all the Caretakers, and all the energy beings we ever met, I think Q could be contained.
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Old May 1 2013, 01:48 AM   #21
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I figure the Douwd powers are nearly comparable to a Q's, since thinking a species out of existence is about as mighty as it gets. However, I imagine Douwd powers though powerful are limited to linear time, or Uxbridge could have just interfered in the time line, the way a Q can, & fixed the problem before it happened
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Old May 4 2013, 07:07 PM   #22
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The Krenim erase Q from the timeline.

Meanwhile, en route to Farpoint Station, Guinan has a feeling that something big has changed in the universe (like how she shouldn't even be on the Enterprise yet) but doesn't deem it important enough to tell Picard.
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Old May 4 2013, 08:17 PM   #23
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

I never thought I'd see the day that I cited TNG: Hide and Q for anything, but today's the day (May The Fourth Be With You). From http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/111.htm:

Hide and Q wrote:
Q: Well if you'll stop interrupting me. This is hardly a time to be teaching you the true nature of the universe. However, at Farpoint we saw you as savages only. We discovered instead that you are unusual creatures in your own limited ways. Ways which in time will not be so limited.
RIKER: We're growing. Something about us compels us to learn, explore.
Q: Yes, the human compulsion. And unfortunately for us, it is a power which will grow stronger century after century, aeon after aeon.
RIKER: Aeons. Have you any idea how far we'll advance?
Q: Perhaps in a future that you cannot yet conceive, even beyond us. So you see, we must know more about this human condition. That's why we've selected you, Riker, to become part of the Q, so that you can bring to us this human need and hunger, that we may understand it.
Therefore, how well Q does might depend on when the contest takes place.
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Old May 4 2013, 08:27 PM   #24
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The Krenim erase Q from the timeline.

Meanwhile, en route to Farpoint Station, Guinan has a feeling that something big has changed in the universe (like how she shouldn't even be on the Enterprise yet) but doesn't deem it important enough to tell Picard.
Given they Krenim seem oddly vulnerable to temporal shielding even a small, beat up Federation ship can come up with on their own, I somehow doubt a man who can manipulate space and time by snapping his finger will be effected by their temporal weapon.
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Old May 4 2013, 11:45 PM   #25
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The Krenim erase Q from the timeline.

Meanwhile, en route to Farpoint Station, Guinan has a feeling that something big has changed in the universe (like how she shouldn't even be on the Enterprise yet) but doesn't deem it important enough to tell Picard.
Given they Krenim seem oddly vulnerable to temporal shielding even a small, beat up Federation ship can come up with on their own, I somehow doubt a man who can manipulate space and time by snapping his finger will be effected by their temporal weapon.
He could travel through time well enough, but manipulate it? I don't recall ever seeing that. He never snapped his fingers and altered history.

And if it's Q vs EVERYONE else, then I would think he'd be plenty distracted enough to miss one temporal blast that he probably underestimates.

Not that my suggestion was entirely serious in the first place.
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Old May 5 2013, 12:02 AM   #26
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This topic assumes that the rest of the continuum can't interfere, they don't count.

Are all the other omnipotent beings part of this fight? Kevin Uxbridge, for instance? If the other omnipotent beings count, I think they could outnumber Q.
Yes, it's literally every living being in Star Trek versus the main Q, with the other Q not willing or able to interfere. Even the tribbles are involved, though obviously they won't have any effect on the outcome.

Kevin Uxbridge was very powerful, but he wasn't omnipotent. If he were, then he could have dispatched of the Husnock quite easily, or transported his entire planet far from the warships, or made it invisible, etc. Why didn't he do these things?
Because his pacifism didn't break until it was all over. But I suppose, he was unable to undo the destruction of his colony except by creating illusions.

But if he were to team up with neer-seen others of his kind, Transfigurations guy, the 10,000 omnipotent TOS creatures, the Traveler, all the Caretakers, and all the energy beings we ever met, I think Q could be contained.
Those TOS creatures were obviously not omnipotent, just powerful to differing degrees.
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Old May 5 2013, 12:24 AM   #27
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The same answer these kinds of questions always geet. Batman, provided he has time to prepare.
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