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Old April 27 2013, 07:29 PM   #541
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Re: Season THREE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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I think CBS-D found that Enterprise shot during S1.
The only mention I can find about them finding footage for Sins of the Father is the 13 seconds of live action footage that were initially upscaled on the sampler disc.
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Old April 27 2013, 07:46 PM   #542
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There were three shots of the Enterprise that were recreated with CGI for the Encounter at Farpoint sampler:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_193.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_198.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_863.jpg

Of those three shots, the first and third were located and inserted into subsequent episodes, including A Matter of Honor. The CGI saucer separation shot remains in Best of Both Worlds 2, but it has been improved.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...001_hd_355.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...ory_hd_414.jpg

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...nor_hd_142.jpg

However, when the Season 1 set came out, they didn't go back and reinsert the located model shots into Encounter at Farpoint - likely because they do one episode at a time, and don't go back once it's finished.
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Old April 27 2013, 08:41 PM   #543
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Well obviously they found the shot in question since it's the same as A Matter of Honor. I do wonder if they've kept the CG version since it makes it a slightly different shot (instead of a total reuse of footage), and it corrects the perspective of the BOP. I guess we'll find out Tuesday, unless someone who has a review copy chimes in.
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Old April 27 2013, 09:28 PM   #544
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Perhaps FrontierTrek can answer this:

For the opening shot of Sins of the Father, did they retain the fully CGI shot, or did they replace it with the original elements, as was done in A Matter of Honor?

Sins of the Father (sampler):
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...her_hd_001.jpg

A Matter of Honor:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...nor_hd_142.jpg

That season 2 shot looks 'too good' for HTV because the multi-colored paint scheme shows through while most HTV footage makes the Enterprise flat gray. The lighting also looks very-CBS-D. Did they do that shot?
Yes, CBS-Digital restored that element for S1's "Lonely Among Us" I believe.

The opening shot of "Sins" remains completely CG I'm sorry to say. The only changes CBS-Digital made to the episode were adding the 13 seconds in true HD and redoing the Act One titles with a deeper blue color and thicker drop shadow matching the rest of the S3 episodes. They also moved some of their positions because the tighter cropping of the episode put some of them outside of the title safe area.

This implies that the exact same thing will happen with "Inner Light." The opening shot will remain CG (despite being found) but the titles will be redone (and the typos fixed).
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Old April 27 2013, 10:38 PM   #545
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One more thing they fixed in "Sins of the father" are the USS Intrepid logs which were SD on the sampler disk:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...her_hd_252.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...her_hd_253.jpg

They are HD now, like the rest of the episode.
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Old April 27 2013, 11:24 PM   #546
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One more thing they fixed in "Sins of the father" are the USS Intrepid logs which were SD on the sampler disk:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...her_hd_252.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...her_hd_253.jpg

They are HD now, like the rest of the episode.
Yes, thank you! I forgot about that shot and that it was earlier in the episode. Somehow I remembered it as the one directly following the 13 seconds, but that was regarding Kahlest and clearly HD on the sampler.

It's interesting how CBS neglects to include SD upconverted material that periodically appears on displays in the show ("Heart of Glory," "The Schizoid Man," "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II") in their upconverted footage calculations, probably because they're comped inside of true HD footage.

The Next Level sampler should have said approx. 17 seconds was upconverted, not 13. It'll be interesting to see how "The Mind's Eye" ends up with all those VISOR shots. They're a bit more involved than the same shots in "Heart of Glory" though, with lots of readouts and symbols, so hopefully they go back to the oneg and recreate the effect.
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Old April 28 2013, 05:13 AM   #547
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http://www.digitalbits.com/item/star-trek-tng-season-3

A's all around from The Digital Bits
I have to agree (though I think season 4 is far more consistent a season and Braga didn't join the writers until season four not the reported season three). After finally getting through all the episodes and most of the new VAM (though I haven't watched/ listened to any of the commentaries yet (the one I did on season two was awful, just too much time had passed, and getting prompted by the Okudas, terrible).

Its a steller release, and I am pissed that I had to return the sampler that was lent to me, back to whom it belong to. And due to unexpected medical bills it will probably three months are more before I can watch them again. AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH.
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Old April 28 2013, 01:37 PM   #548
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The ad is up on Target.com now! http://weeklyad.target.com/minneapol...55403/pages#25

This is the best deal I have seen for any of the season sets so far! I was on the fence about getting the BOBW disc but for $5 I am getting it for sure!!

I wonder if Amazon will lower their price to try and match this deal? Right now they still are charging $77 for the season 3 set by itself when at Target you can get both the Season 3 set AND the BOBW disc together for $64.99
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Old April 28 2013, 05:20 PM   #549
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The ad is up on Target.com now! http://weeklyad.target.com/minneapol...55403/pages#25

This is the best deal I have seen for any of the season sets so far! I was on the fence about getting the BOBW disc but for $5 I am getting it for sure!!

I wonder if Amazon will lower their price to try and match this deal? Right now they still are charging $77 for the season 3 set by itself when at Target you can get both the Season 3 set AND the BOBW disc together for $64.99
I am seriously considering canceling the pre-order through amazon and taking advantage of this Target deal. I wasn't going to get the BOBW set, but right now I'm paying +$90 for just one set (Including the tax and shipping so I can get it on release day, and I'm not a prime member) but to only pay like 70 for both sets is a good deal. I thought Amazon would have lowered the price again but it doesn't seem like that will be the case.
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Old April 28 2013, 05:39 PM   #550
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You may try price-matching at Best Buy, as they've got exclusive VAM for the S3 set. A rep at my local store said they'd match it (including the $10 combo discount), but I made sure to get her name and title in case a different rep on Tuesday tries to say it isn't matchable.
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Old April 28 2013, 07:13 PM   #551
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Well, I was able to cancel the Amazon.com order and I called up best buy. The one in my area doesn't price match bundles but just the individual sets. Looks like I'll be buying both BOBW and Season 3 at Target and then using the gift card balance for Season 4 and 5. This may work out to my advantage afterall, unless Target does this again. It was just too good of an ad to not pass up.
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Old April 28 2013, 07:17 PM   #552
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Has anyone else noticed on that Target ad under The Best of Both Worlds it says 'DVD'? Though it does say Blu-ray when you hover your mouse pointer over it.
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Has anyone else noticed on that Target ad under The Best of Both Worlds it says 'DVD'? Though it does say Blu-ray when you hover your mouse pointer over it.
I did notice that. I was under the impression they weren't releasing these remasters as DVDs but blu rays only.
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Old April 28 2013, 07:35 PM   #554
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There is a very nice CGI shot in Booby Trap, the best yet. I wonder if anyone can spot it?
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Old April 28 2013, 07:42 PM   #555
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So just spent 30 minutes on the phone with Best Buy about my preorder for both items. They agreed to price match the individual items, but not take the additional $10 off for purchasing both. Don't know if the VAM is worth the extra $10 at Best Buy.
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