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Old April 27 2013, 06:18 AM   #16
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Re: You know what I wish we saw in Star Trek 2009?

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During the sequence where prime Spock is mind-melding with young Kirk, when it shows the space scenes of the 24th century from the prime universe during that sequence, I wish they had shown a prime universe Starfleet ship (like a Galaxy or Sovereign or Defiant class) flying around space. Or maybe Geordi LaForge (as a small cameo) helping prime Spock build his Jellyfish ship (as was shown in the Star Trek Countdown prequel comic to the movie).

What do you think? Would you have liked to see something like that?
Someone said that it would have been the perfect opportunity for us to see an older Kirk and I agree. That could have been Shatner's cameo.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:26 PM   #17
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Re: You know what I wish we saw in Star Trek 2009?

I wish we'd seen some Andorians and Tellarites and others walking around in the background. Abrams-Trek gives us even more of the impression of a human dominated Federation, moreso than the original series even did.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:36 PM   #18
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Re: You know what I wish we saw in Star Trek 2009?

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As I mentioned above and in another thread, I'd like to see both JMS and Peter Jackson do a Star Trek movie; both men have proven themselves adept at doing SF & F movies/TV shows/comic books-who knows what they could do with Star Trek? Edgar Wright might be another, or even (if he's still directing) Peter Hymans.
I don't doubt JMS' ability to do a Trek film, I'm just wondering why he would want to. He spent all that time on his baby Babylon 5. Why would he want to "jump ship", as it were? Especially since he thinks Trek (DS9, specifically) ripped B5 off?
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Old April 27 2013, 06:15 PM   #19
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I wish we'd seen some Andorians and Tellarites and others walking around in the background. Abrams-Trek gives us even more of the impression of a human dominated Federation, moreso than the original series even did.
I would love to see some Andorians in the next movie. They have not been in any feature film to a large degree and I would love to see them as a major plot point.
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Old April 27 2013, 06:45 PM   #20
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Especially since he thinks Trek (DS9, specifically) ripped B5 off?
Not here, please. That is a discussion which rarely goes any way but poorly, it is one which is in no way pertinent to the topics discussed in this forum, and any attempt to pursue it will be summarily nuked from orbit.
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Old April 27 2013, 10:27 PM   #21
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Re: You know what I wish we saw in Star Trek 2009?

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I don't doubt JMS' ability to do a Trek film, I'm just wondering why he would want to.
If I remember correctly, he expressed quite some interest a few years ago. Didn't he even outline a plot that he would have used?

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I would love to see some Andorians in the next movie. They have not been in any feature film to a large degree and I would love to see them as a major plot point.
I don't know ... I loved the Enterprise Andorians, they were so perfect that I'm not sure I would want to see Abrams' take on them. To be honest, I'm almost afraid of seeing a Klingon without a helmet in STID!
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Old April 27 2013, 11:12 PM   #22
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I wish we'd seen some Andorians and Tellarites and others walking around in the background. Abrams-Trek gives us even more of the impression of a human dominated Federation, moreso than the original series even did.
I'd love to see an Andorian, Tellarite or one of the Xindi species on the Enterprise crew.

Although I have to disagree about the human-dominated Federation. We saw Alnschloss K'Bentayr (the Arex-like alien) and a Cygnian (big eyed nurse) on the Kelvin, the Enterprise had Madeline (the bronze-skinned girl on the Enterprise bridge), Keenser and a several cool aliens in the bar, at Starfleet Academy and belowdecks on the Enterprise. I'd say the movie is tied for number of aliens with TMP.
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Old April 28 2013, 03:08 AM   #23
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Re: You know what I wish we saw in Star Trek 2009?

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Abrams-Trek gives us even more of the impression of a human dominated Federation, moreso than the original series even did.
Eh?

Were you not seeing the plethora of Bad Robot's aliens in Starfleet?

They did suggest we'd possibly see an Andorian in "Star Trek (2009)" - and we didn't - but there were given plenty of aliens, some with important scenes (Gaila, Keenser), and there was probably more variety that ST:TMP's rec deck and San Francisco or ST IV's Council scenes.

Not many TOS aliens were shown to be in Starfleet in TOS. For that we had to wait for TAS and TMP.
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Old April 28 2013, 03:16 AM   #24
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I don't doubt JMS' ability to do a Trek film, I'm just wondering why he would want to.
If I remember correctly, he expressed quite some interest a few years ago. Didn't he even outline a plot that he would have used?
Indeed he did. It was a reboot proposal co-written with Bryce Zabel (Dark Skies, Lois & Clark, The Crow).
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Old April 28 2013, 04:01 AM   #25
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I hope we see some more TOS races in Into Darkness, or a future movie. I would like the Abramsverse to acknowledge the Andorians or Tellarites.

Even the Edosians or Caitians from TAS would be nice!

I know the Gorn are back in the new Star Trek video game
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Old April 28 2013, 05:01 AM   #26
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Someone said that it would have been the perfect opportunity for us to see an older Kirk and I agree. That could have been Shatner's cameo.
That would make no sense. Kirk would have been long dead by that point. No matter what point in the 24th century those events were depicted, Kirk was believe lost on the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-B (late 23rd c.). Even if we ignore the events of "Generations," as a human he'd long since have expired by the time Spock was helping the Romulans (as he says it's 129 years in the future).

How would throwing Kirk into any future mind-meld vision have any rational explanation?
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Old April 28 2013, 05:38 AM   #27
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Again I must ask, what would the two of you want as director and writer for the two movies if it wasn't Abrams, Orci & Kurtzman?
Ideally? John Sturges and E. E. "Doc" Smith, but they're both long dead.
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Old April 28 2013, 06:15 AM   #28
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Sturges is quite a choice; he'd bring something, to be sure. But given the ADD times in which we live, they'd wind up having Baird or one of his acolytes overcut the thing and destroy the natural tempos of the director.
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Old April 28 2013, 06:36 AM   #29
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Call me crazy, but I'd love to see a Ridley Scott or Guillermo del Toro Trek movie.
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Old April 28 2013, 02:49 PM   #30
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Someone said that it would have been the perfect opportunity for us to see an older Kirk and I agree. That could have been Shatner's cameo.
That would make no sense. Kirk would have been long dead by that point. No matter what point in the 24th century those events were depicted, Kirk was believe lost on the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-B (late 23rd c.). Even if we ignore the events of "Generations," as a human he'd long since have expired by the time Spock was helping the Romulans (as he says it's 129 years in the future).

How would throwing Kirk into any future mind-meld vision have any rational explanation?
Spock was ruminating about their friendship. It was the perfect opportunity to throw in Shatner as Kirk. And the fact that it's a montage of thoughts is all the rational explanation needed. The mind jumps around. No reason he couldn't have shown young Kirk what happened to Romulus, then an image of old Kirk, then whatever else he wanted to conjure up.
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