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Old April 26 2013, 07:18 PM   #6616
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Possible New 52 debut of a new Cyborg Superman? Kenneth Bocafort art concept for him

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/CYBO...-Comeback.html
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Old April 26 2013, 07:29 PM   #6617
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^ I would enjoy it more if it was a Superman robot gone bad, or a clone whos body was failing and needed to meld with a robot, ok ok I am thinking robots today.
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Old April 26 2013, 07:50 PM   #6618
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I wonder how they would reintroduce the concept since Hank Henshaw I guess is still technically supposed to be a Sinestro Corp member? They'd either have to retcon that or introduce a completely new version I'm guessing.
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Old April 26 2013, 08:13 PM   #6619
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Cyborg Superman always felt like a bit of a riff on Metallo with a little variation to me.

I'm not dissing the character just noting my perception of him.
The original introduction during the Reign storyline was strong I thought.
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Old April 26 2013, 08:21 PM   #6620
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Yeah I guess I can see that reaction to him. I always thought he was cool myself and the Sinestro Corp thing made sense. I am really curious to see how and if they pull this off.

Also it's C2E2 this weekend...so it will be interesting to see what kind of news if any we will get from DC about upcoming future projects.
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Old April 26 2013, 11:08 PM   #6621
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Cyborg Superman always held a special place in my heart, if only for his bad ass appearance.
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Old April 26 2013, 11:44 PM   #6622
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I wonder how they would reintroduce the concept since Hank Henshaw I guess is still technically supposed to be a Sinestro Corp member? They'd either have to retcon that or introduce a completely new version I'm guessing.
He hasn't really been an SC member since the end of the Sinestro Corps War, when he had almost achieved his wish of being destroyed (and was hoping the Anti-Monitor would do that, which was the only reason he aided Sinestro). The Manhunters saved what little was left of him (to his chagrin), and he later tried to get Nekron's attention during Blackest Night. Because Henshaw's not alive in the traditional sense, Nekron couldn't sense the Cyborg and give him the oblivion he desired. He later took control of the Alpha Lanterns in the belief that if the technology existed to create them, it could also be undone and he could return to a fallible mortal form. Ganthet seemed to think such a conversion wasn't possible, and it was implied that Boodika's psyche finally killed Henshaw for good when he tried to possess her Alpha Lantern body. He still survived somehow though.
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Old April 27 2013, 12:38 AM   #6623
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One of the reasons I thought Superfriends was stupid is because the Atom could fly through space without a space suit. I mean, those are not so absolutely not his power set.

Last night I saw a new low on Superfriends.

Hawkman had to wear a rocket pack to fly in space.

Sure he didn't need any help to breath in space, but he was frakking lucky that his wings didn't set on fire!
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Old April 27 2013, 02:34 AM   #6624
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Perhaps Atom was trained by Batman? He can breathe in space.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:57 AM   #6625
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Perhaps Atom was trained by Batman? He can breathe in space.
And according to TVtropes is probably the one who really blew up the Deathstar.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:31 PM   #6626
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No comments on Batman Inc #10?

This issue made me realize how much I'm going to miss Grant Morrison on Batman.

Really.

Morrison's Batman has come up with some utterly whacked out plans over the years. I didn't think anything could possibly top the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. (Batman's psychotic hyper-violent back-up personality in case someone tried to hack his mind.)

But turning himself into a cyborg Man-Bat (presumably wearing Azrael's Suit of Sorrows as well) to take down Talia?

That's nuts.
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Old April 27 2013, 02:47 PM   #6627
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I wonder how they would reintroduce the concept since Hank Henshaw I guess is still technically supposed to be a Sinestro Corp member? They'd either have to retcon that or introduce a completely new version I'm guessing.
He hasn't really been an SC member since the end of the Sinestro Corps War, when he had almost achieved his wish of being destroyed (and was hoping the Anti-Monitor would do that, which was the only reason he aided Sinestro). The Manhunters saved what little was left of him (to his chagrin), and he later tried to get Nekron's attention during Blackest Night. Because Henshaw's not alive in the traditional sense, Nekron couldn't sense the Cyborg and give him the oblivion he desired. He later took control of the Alpha Lanterns in the belief that if the technology existed to create them, it could also be undone and he could return to a fallible mortal form. Ganthet seemed to think such a conversion wasn't possible, and it was implied that Boodika's psyche finally killed Henshaw for good when he tried to possess her Alpha Lantern body. He still survived somehow though.
I think this shows another problem with DC stopping shy of doing a total reboot. With them implying "The Death of Superman" is still canon, it also leads to "The Reign of the Supermen" also being in canon (though Steel got a new origin). Plus, with much of Green Lantern still canon, it'd be hard to remove Cyborg Superman completely. (As I type this, my 4 year old is on my lap and, coincidentally, keeps pestering me to post the Borg emoticon because he thinks it's "Cyborg" from Teen Titans ).

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One of the reasons I thought Superfriends was stupid is because the Atom could fly through space without a space suit. I mean, those are not so absolutely not his power set.

Last night I saw a new low on Superfriends.

Hawkman had to wear a rocket pack to fly in space.

Sure he didn't need any help to breath in space, but he was frakking lucky that his wings didn't set on fire!
I can't remember what comic it was in, but I do remember The Atom indicating that he's not really breathing oxygen when he shrinks down. Of course, at times he is seen wearing an oxygen mask, so take it with a grain of salt (there's a pun in there, somewhere).
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Old April 27 2013, 02:54 PM   #6628
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Near as I can tell, the New 52 Death of Superman was a bare bones version of the story, probably similar to the animated movie they did a few years ago. No Steel, no Superboy, no Matrix-Supergirl, no Cyborg Superman... just him dying against Doomsday and coming back. Sounds pretty boring to me. I loved the Death & Return of Superman!
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Old April 27 2013, 05:55 PM   #6629
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No comments on Batman Inc #10?

This issue made me realize how much I'm going to miss Grant Morrison on Batman.

Really.

Morrison's Batman has come up with some utterly whacked out plans over the years. I didn't think anything could possibly top the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. (Batman's psychotic hyper-violent back-up personality in case someone tried to hack his mind.)

But turning himself into a cyborg Man-Bat (presumably wearing Azrael's Suit of Sorrows as well) to take down Talia?

That's nuts.
Eh, I kinda feel like Batman Inc is plodding along at this point. I'm ready for it to just be over.
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Old April 27 2013, 07:22 PM   #6630
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I absolutely loved Batman Incorporated #10...and Morrison brought things full circle back to Batman and Son with the crazy Langstrom stuff, and as Dick said...Bruce has been forced into a literal corner by Talia. Everything has crumbled around him, his son has been taken from him...Batman is never more dangerous than when he's forced into a near impossible situation...so Batman does the impossible himself! Burnham's art is just terrific as usual...and while it does seem plodding on a bit...I've really enjoyed these last few issues of the second half after a slow start to the "second season" it has picked up big time the last several issues. Everything is coming together rather nicely.
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