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Old April 25 2013, 05:25 AM   #1
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A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

OK so in 2011 I was at the Vegas Trek convention. One of the panels had Anthony Pascale the editor for Trekmovie.com and commentator for some of the Trek movies. The panel with Pascale was about a potential future Trek series and what it would be about. When it ended he said he would like to see a series that focused on young cadets like Nova or Red Squad, set on Earth for the first season and then branch out in to space exploration for following seasons.

Why is ^this^ a "thing"? Braga wanted to do a whole season of ENT on Earth before getting in to space exploration. I'm sure everybody realizes that Trek seasons span about 25 episode per season. Could a show that hasn't been popular with the general public really softball it in for 25 episodes on Earth and not get cancelled? Why do persons of influence in the Trek community feel that camping the show on Earth would be a good thing?


Also what is up with trying to make a show about Red/Nova Squad? The 2 episodes we've seen elite cadets haven't painted the brightest picture of them, and I certainly wouldn't want to see an entire season of them doing whatever it is they do. Sounds like drek to me.

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While I was at the panel a gentleman stood up and said that making a show as was described would basically be Star Trek: The OC for it's first season. Pretty young actors with nothing to do but live life as the best and smartest at Star Fleet Academy. Not saying that I agree with the man's terminology but with shows getting axed left and right these days and using cadets, the appeal would be for the teen/young adult audience. TPTB may just make Star Trek: The OC if they were to revive it for tv

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Old April 25 2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

I wouldn't mind a series about Cadets if done well (though it does have the potential pitfall of just becoming "future teen drama"). It would have a set run of four years, could focus on a core group of say six characters (maximum of two full-blooded humans), with potential for plenty of recurring characters as well and the occassional cameo from other series (depending on when its set).

Setting it on Earth for a year might not be such a bad thing, as it would force TPTB away from lazy stories that involve space anomaly / alien of the week, which winds up with lots of complicated technobabble or phasers firing. They would have to focus of characterisation, development and relationships between the group, looking at the future of Starfleet before they know what they're doing. It would also be (to a large extent) serialised, with previous events impacting on their lives as they work towards the ultimate goal of becoming officers, which would avoid the damn reset button VOY favoured.

The characters would also move away from their set duties, as you wouldn't necessarily need someone who is an engineer, doctor, etc. There would also be one who saw themselves as the 'leader' and others who would know what they wanted to do with themselves, but then you'd also have the aimless ones, who were brainwashed by recruitment adverts to enroll. Plus there would be no reason for inappropriate low-cut, skin-tight catsuits, as they'd all be in uniform.

Then when they get out into space then it could become more of an anthology series, with all/most of the characters gone in different directions, what they get up to and experience, as well as having potential of building up some big plots that bring them all back together.
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Old April 25 2013, 11:16 AM   #3
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

I dunno, it sounds like Top Gun In Space to me, only on Earth.
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Old April 25 2013, 11:19 AM   #4
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

Future teen drama is fine by me. Smallville in space, with occasional training missions more akin to the Trek we know.

I can see Red Squad being part of an academy-based series but not the focus. They'd be the elitist douchebag jocks of the academy, and when Kirk finally gets to be one of them he no doubt finds they're up to no good and has to bring them down from within.
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Old April 25 2013, 11:42 AM   #5
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

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Future teen drama is fine by me. Smallville in space, with occasional training missions more akin to the Trek we know.

I can see Red Squad being part of an academy-based series but not the focus. They'd be the elitist douchebag jocks of the academy, and when Kirk finally gets to be one of them he no doubt finds they're up to no good and has to bring them down from within.
Thanks for reminding me, it's been 2 years so I had forgotten this detail. Pascale said their would be training missions within the Alpha and Beta Quadrant planets like Vulcan, Kronos, etc. But it would all be supervised. These cadets wouldn't be getting a ship like Red Squad in "Valiant". Earth and academy life would be the focus. If done well we could get something like SeeD cadets in Final Fantasy VIII. However this can stumble into a ditch badley.

Also this will be set post-Nemesis/Romulus blowing up from JJ's Trek. Yes that detail will be canon to any potential new series he said. He's a big fan of JJ Trek.
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Old April 25 2013, 01:57 PM   #6
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

No thanks.

If it's under the Star Trek banner, I'd rather go back to big-action heroes exploring the weird and wild unknown.
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Old April 25 2013, 02:18 PM   #7
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

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No thanks.

If it's under the Star Trek banner, I'd rather go back to big-action heroes exploring the weird and wild unknown.
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Old April 25 2013, 04:14 PM   #8
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

Less than no interest.

Not interested in teen drama, and am so tired of shows set on Earth. If it's going to be SF, or ST, I want it set in space. We have enough shows set on this planet.
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Old April 25 2013, 05:41 PM   #9
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

If there is a main series, and this would be a series targeting younger audience, maybe I would turn on from time to time. But fact is that I don't care about teen dramas, so if this would be the only Star Trek series I would be very disappointed, but as no other Trek series would be around I would probably watch it ...
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Old April 25 2013, 07:26 PM   #10
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

They should it like the Seafort books:

As Riker bent the strapping Cadet over the chair, he reassured him "This will hurt you more than me"

"Don't you mean me more than you sir?" replied the cadet

"No Son, I know what I mean" and with that Riker started thrashing the cadet
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Old April 26 2013, 06:56 PM   #11
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no cadet series, got to be another series about a team set in space for sure.
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Old April 26 2013, 07:05 PM   #12
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Re: A Nova Squad or Red Squad Series

Ooh... here's a good idea. Why don't we do a 24th century reality show set at Quark's.... actually that might be entertaining.
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Old April 26 2013, 07:10 PM   #13
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Ooh... here's a good idea. Why don't we do a 24th century reality show set at Quark's.... actually that might be entertaining.
Seems like it could work as an internet web show
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Old April 26 2013, 07:21 PM   #14
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No "reality" TV show is ever interesting
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Old April 26 2013, 07:26 PM   #15
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No "reality" TV show is ever interesting
Millions of viewers disagree with you.
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