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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 143 19.32%
A 160 21.62%
A- 99 13.38%
B+ 82 11.08%
B 58 7.84%
B- 27 3.65%
C+ 40 5.41%
C 38 5.14%
C- 24 3.24%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.73%
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Old April 26 2013, 06:58 AM   #436
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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I'd go futher, I'd round up all these miserable excuses for fans who do nothing but bitch about every little detail like the Sheldon Cooper's that they are and put them in a big chamber and pump it full of water until the noise stopped.

Perhaps they can put jerk off watching Spock's Brain or whatever episode gives them a litte stiffy.
Yeah....No.
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Old April 26 2013, 07:00 AM   #437
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So...it sounds fantastic, but I have one question and it's kinda silly:
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Old April 26 2013, 07:15 AM   #438
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Ah, hoping for a good use of the 3D glasses.
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Old April 26 2013, 07:55 AM   #439
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I'd go futher, I'd round up all these miserable excuses for fans who do nothing but bitch about every little detail like the Sheldon Cooper's that they are and put them in a big chamber and pump it full of water until the noise stopped.

Perhaps they can put jerk off watching Spock's Brain or whatever episode gives them a litte stiffy.
Let's just say you shouldn't go further. Try keeping it about the movie instead, or maybe about reactions to the movie. Leave the other fans (and what you might like to do to them) out of it; that sort of thing really is out of place here.
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Old April 26 2013, 08:09 AM   #440
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I'd go futher, I'd round up all these miserable excuses for fans who do nothing but bitch about every little detail like the Sheldon Cooper's that they are and put them in a big chamber and pump it full of water until the noise stopped.

Perhaps they can put jerk off watching Spock's Brain or whatever episode gives them a litte stiffy.
Let's just say you shouldn't go further. Try keeping it about the movie instead, or maybe about reactions to the movie. Leave the other fans (and what you might like to do to them) out of it; that sort of thing really is out of place here.
Well you're the moderator so you'll set the tone as you see fit.

I assume you didn't get around, just yet, to moderating your fellow BBS moderator who, several pages back, accused a fellow forumite of supporting, if not committing, motion picture piracy? I presume it's ok to flame people if you're a mod here?

I won't hold my breath, I watched your moderation of this forum as a long time lurker, and its appalling frankly.
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Old April 26 2013, 12:04 PM   #441
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Ummm... anyway... mass drownings aside...

I didn't bother holding off on spoiling myself. I've been disappointed way too many times by wanting to remain "pure" until opening day (Alien Resurrection... one of the most grand disappointments in my entire life). Spoilers of Nemesis saved me cash and overwhelming disappointment. Last year I tried again by remaining chaste with regard to Prometheus (and walked out of the theater with a bitchin' continuity headache and rancid, fan-wank xenomorph goo all over me... had to take a shower)... but I digress.

Suffice to say, I couldn't leave STID to chance and I'm quite content with what I've read here.

I have to agree with the earlier posts about this film being JJ's "Kobayashi Maru" test. It was going to be a no-win scenario, Khan or no-Khan... some finite group of fans was going to get pissed.

I'm fine with it being Khan, even more pleased that BC gets to play him. He's hands-down spectacular at all he does.

I'm also fine with the elements of TWOK that have been turned on their head. FRINGE did something similar (once it delved deeply into the RedVerse) by using the characters differences "over there" to push and develop the main characters further. I'm hopeful that JJ is doing something not entirely dissimilar with the cast in STID (and it sounds like he is, i.e. Adm. Pike being Kirk's father-figure and how much of Kirk is nature vs. nurture).

5/17 can't get here fast enough. I've already taken the day off work, have a lunch date scheduled with the wife and will take my boys to see it the same weekend.

It's gonna be a good weekend, tater...
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Old April 26 2013, 12:27 PM   #442
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I am regretting buying the ticket for this movie already. I am detail oriented and I pick up on things that don't make sense faster than other people. This film will not be as pleasurable for me as it will be for others.
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Old April 26 2013, 12:56 PM   #443
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I am regretting buying the ticket for this movie already. I am detail oriented and I pick up on things that don't make sense faster than other people. This film will not be as pleasurable for me as it will be for others.
Well the dilemma for you is pretty straightforward. If you hated the reboot you will hate this and frankly if look into the details of any Trek you will find massive flaws ! Just enjoy the spectacle, the ride and the interactions between the characters rather than focusing on the details.

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Old April 26 2013, 01:27 PM   #444
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If you hated the reboot you will hate this and frankly if look into the details of any Trek and you find massive flaws ! Just enjoy the spectacle, the ride and the interactions between the characters rather than focusing on the details.
Exactly. Relax already!

Or sell the ticket to a friend.
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Old April 26 2013, 01:27 PM   #445
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I overlook all sorts of shortcomings that I would not overlook in other films outside Bond and Trek.
Please tell me however that you didn't like On Her Majesty's Secret Service where George Lazenby plays Bond and actually gets married in the film?

Worst Bond film in the history of the series and Lazenby was terrible as James Bond.

Trek like Bond had it's Lazenby moments. Nemesis and Final Frontier were IMO definately those moments.
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Old April 26 2013, 01:35 PM   #446
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I assume you didn't get around, just yet, to moderating your fellow BBS moderator who, several pages back, accused a fellow forumite of supporting, if not committing, motion picture piracy? I presume it's ok to flame people if you're a mod here?
I don't want to make extra trouble for M'Sharak, but I felt this needed to be clarified since in the midst of trying to throw someone else under the bus to distract attention away from your own over the top comments about drowning complainers, you managed to come to the completely opposite interpretation of what I actually said.

I asserted that they WOULDN'T be bootlegging the film and WOULD be paying the full price to see it in the theater so they could continue to argue with knowledge about the details of the film. There was no accusation of bootlegging on their part, just that sometimes they claim to have seen a bootleg at a friend's house so that they can brag about not wasting their money on the film. See the difference?

It's not even flaming even if I had said what you contend, and it sure is hell isn't remotely on par with saying you would like to drown people.
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Old April 26 2013, 02:07 PM   #447
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Another question: Are their any other ships in the film other than Enterprise and Vengeance? Also what are the "balls" on the front of the Vengeance?
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Old April 26 2013, 04:12 PM   #448
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I am regretting buying the ticket for this movie already. I am detail oriented and I pick up on things that don't make sense faster than other people. This film will not be as pleasurable for me as it will be for others.
Will it be a thrill ride? Yes. Will it have great special effects? Yes. Will it be well directed? Yes. Will I have to not think so hard on certain elements? Likely based on what I saw in Star Trek 2009 and what I'm hearing about Into Darkness.

Just based on the above (if my analysis is correct), it'll still be worth the price of a ticket.
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Old April 26 2013, 04:52 PM   #449
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Another question: Are their any other ships in the film other than Enterprise and Vengeance? Also what are the "balls" on the front of the Vengeance?
For the first question, Spock is apparently reassigned to another ship as well briefly, but I'm not sure if we see much of that ship.

I'm also waiting to hear from anyone if the Enterprise appears repaired at the end, or if she's in spacedock like we left the TNG cast in Nemesis.

That would be a downer. I'd like to see her warp away to her next adventure at the end, with maybe Pine doing the "Space - the final frontier" narration.
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Old April 26 2013, 04:56 PM   #450
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There are times when I could actually like alcohol and could get wasted by drinking an inordinate amount of the stuff. I think watching this film in that condition would help alleviate the fact that I bought the ticket and would help me ease my anal retentiveness as I watch the film. Of course, I will be watching the film, because I bought the bloody ticket. I feel obligated. Ugh.

Anyway, I won't be repeating that mistake with the video game. What is it with corporations calling games that no sane person would buy, because they are more than partially broken and are incapable of measuring to anything half-decent, canon?

I would like for whoever does the next film to respect that there are fans out there who aren't like them in the fact that they aren't rolling in money. For someone like Abrams, blowing nearly fifteen dollars on a film is nothing. For a poor person, that's a meal. So, that when they do make that film, they will produce a film that has a script with intelligence and common sense and there aren't plot holes big enough to drive one of their ridiculously large ships through, and where the characters are not eclipsed by special effects and sleight-of-hand gimmicks.
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