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Old April 23 2013, 10:49 PM   #46
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Re: Making the Intepid Class Prototype (Sternbach)

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from looking at the side-by-side pictures, i like this prototype design, but i think the voyager we got looks classier
I get the opposite reaction: this design looks much better to my eye than the Voyager we got. A lot less spoon-like, and just more functional looking to me.
And neither can be turned into a pizza-cutting wheel.

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Well, there is that.

BTW, loved your Hayne's Klingon BoP book. Any chance you're going to be any more along that line? Voyager or NX-01 getting similar treatment perhaps?
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Old April 24 2013, 12:21 AM   #47
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Re: Making the Intepid Class Prototype (Sternbach)

Finally finished. I'll light her etc later but for now, here's the model.

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...698cc470a9fb31



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Old April 24 2013, 12:31 AM   #48
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Re: Making the Intepid Class Prototype (Sternbach)

the windows give it the look of a stingray's underside mouth
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Old April 24 2013, 08:20 AM   #49
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the windows give it the look of a stingray's underside mouth

Uh...ok.
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Old April 24 2013, 01:01 PM   #50
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Hey, I just saw the Stingray mouth! You were looking at the middle picture when you saw that, right?
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Old April 24 2013, 04:19 PM   #51
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One thing I don't like about this design is the nacelles. The way they are oriented/shaped makes them look too like they are part of a sled, so in my mind it has the effect of "grounding" the overall design too much. Downward oriented nacelles in general are less dynamic looking so care has to be taken to avoid making it look too stodgy/slow.
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Old April 24 2013, 05:11 PM   #52
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Yeah that's fair enough. I might play around with the design in a while. I just wanted to stay faithful to the original sketch as much as possible to begin with.
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Old April 24 2013, 08:34 PM   #53
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Thats amazing for SKETCHUP, nice work
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Old April 24 2013, 11:53 PM   #54
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Re: Making the Intepid Class Prototype (Sternbach)

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One thing I don't like about this design is the nacelles. The way they are oriented/shaped makes them look too like they are part of a sled, so in my mind it has the effect of "grounding" the overall design too much. Downward oriented nacelles in general are less dynamic looking so care has to be taken to avoid making it look too stodgy/slow.

I agree too, and that's probably why it wasn't used - not...doesn't look like a ship to carry a series...more like a background ship. But I still like it.

And it *does* look like it would be much more stable on landing than the final Voyager design did! Voyager looked like it would need some kind of field technology to keep it up and balanced....and if those fail, not so good. But this ship looks like it would sit fine on the ground all on it's own! (Which was probably the original intent!)

You know, Voyage had those moving nacelles...they were supposed to be some kind of adjustable "variable geometry warp drive". I was thinking, you could make the nacelles on THIS design maybe swing up and above the saucer for warp flight - and swing down like they are now for landing!

What do ya think?
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Old April 25 2013, 12:21 AM   #55
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Awesome work. I think Rick would be proud to see his design as a 3D model.
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Old April 25 2013, 01:50 AM   #56
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Re: Making the Intepid Class Prototype (Sternbach)

^Rick's already posted in the thread.

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Thats amazing for SKETCHUP, nice work

You haven't seen much sketchup work, have you?
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Old April 25 2013, 08:10 PM   #57
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Some people have wondered what this ship would look like with the engines raised up. Well this is for you guys.





I don't mind the look of it myself, but it does remind me a lot of the USS Equinox like this. For me, this confirms that I much prefer Sternbach's original underslung arrangement.
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Old April 25 2013, 11:11 PM   #58
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Some people have wondered what this ship would look like with the engines raised up. Well this is for you guys.

I don't mind the look of it myself, but it does remind me a lot of the USS Equinox like this. For me, this confirms that I much prefer Sternbach's original underslung arrangement.
Could you try rolling both nacelles 180 degrees and reattaching to the pylons? I like the upward bend on the pylons, but I think the nacelles turned over would give a little crisper look to the whole ship. It's one of those undefinable stylistic somethings that speaks to me.

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Old April 26 2013, 07:51 AM   #59
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No problem Rick. As I thought of perhaps having the 'raised nacelles' version as a refit of this class, I added some extra impulse engines too. Kinda like the Excelsior, I thought the original impulse engines looked a bit weak on the original version. Anyways, here it is: What do you think? I think I still prefer the original...

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Old April 26 2013, 02:23 PM   #60
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^Rick's already posted in the thread.

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Thats amazing for SKETCHUP, nice work

You haven't seen much sketchup work, have you?
Not really, especially not startrek related thats for sure. He did a bang up job.
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