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Old April 24 2013, 08:51 PM   #1
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Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was...

...from the JJ Abrams Trek universe? And by that I mean that scene near the end where all those different Enterprise D's started popping in.

I would like to think that at least one of those Enterprise D's was from the JJ Abrams Trek universe.
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Old April 25 2013, 01:09 AM   #2
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

It would have stood out. It would be double the size of a super star destroyer, have nacelles large enough to house their own colonies, and it would be generating its own lens flares. Also, at the end when all the Worfs were assembled in the shuttlecraft, one of them would have been young, good looking, and generating his own lens flare. So no, I don't believe the Abrams timeline was represented there.
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Old April 25 2013, 01:16 AM   #3
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

Seriously, I wouldn't think so, since all of the Enterprises featured came from the same time frame- just different universes. The Abramsprise came from more than 100 years earlier.
However, it isn't bad for humanity if you want to think it was, so why not?
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Old April 25 2013, 01:35 AM   #4
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

I doubt that was anyone's intent during "Parallels" production, but Trek is always open to interpretation. Weren't all the Enterprise-D's identical?
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Old April 25 2013, 02:09 AM   #5
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

The ones we saw did look alike, yes.

If there's an Enterprise in the 24th century of the Abramsverse, it is almost certainly going to be completely different from the Ent-D we're used to. Probably everyone on board is "new", as well. The timelines will have diverged way the hell apart by that time.

I think it's more likely that one of those alternates was from a MU where the Empire still exists.
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Old April 25 2013, 02:15 AM   #6
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

Who knows, maybe when the blu-ray of the episode is released an Abramsified Enterprise D will be among them. Or if that's too much work, one of the ships will generate a lens flare when it pops in, to signify where it originated.
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Old April 25 2013, 02:28 AM   #7
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

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Who knows, maybe when the blu-ray of the episode is released an Abramsified Enterprise D will be among them. Or if that's too much work, one of the ships will generate a lens flare when it pops in, to signify where it originated.
I read speculation on TVtropes that the one where Riker is captain and Worf is the first officer and married to Trio might be from the JJverse due to the bridge having some similarities to the JJprise like that big glass display thingy behind the tactical console.
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Old April 25 2013, 02:55 AM   #8
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Maybe the Borg-destroyed one was from the Abrams verse.

Think about it. In the Abrams-verse when the Borg attacked, instead of using clever strategies involving planting subtle commands in the Collective, Riker probably just beamed over and started shooting. Naturally, the Borg took over the Federation in that universe.
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Old April 25 2013, 09:26 AM   #9
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

I doubt the JJprise-D, if such a ship even exists, was in the neighbourhood when the universes started to merge.

Considering the size of the new Enterprise (725 meters in length compared to the original's 289), let alone the size of...

...I can't imagine the alt-Federation returning to the exact same design their Prime-verse counterparts do a century later.

That said, somehow the Mirror Universe NCC-1701 is identical to 1701-prime, despite the identical USS Defiant having emerged into that universe 100 years previously and fallen into the hands of the MU NX-01 crew.
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Old April 25 2013, 03:08 PM   #10
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Re: Do you think one of the Enterprises in the TNG ep "Parallels" was.

^^^ Since we won't ever see what happened after Sato took over the MU, I chalk that up to her being lost with all hands following a military coup and all of Imperial Starfleet's vessels swarming Defiant all at once. Yes, she may be more powerful than each individual ship, but likely couldn't withstand an alpha strike from a large portion of a highly weaponized and armored fleet. The Imperial scientists wouldn't have had time to study its technology before getting destroyed. The only thing they would have had is a general layout, most likely, and 6-view orthos from sensor scans. Hence, the inspiration for the Imperial Constitution design in the 23rd Century, which they might never have had if the Defiant hadn't been there! Fits perfectly...
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Old April 25 2013, 03:22 PM   #11
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^ I love hand-wavium!
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Old April 25 2013, 03:22 PM   #12
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I'm inclined to think tha the MU 1701 was only identical on the outside, but had superior weaponry to it's prime universe counterpart. I believe that a lot of scientist types, being naturally questioning sorts, probably ran afoul of the political orthodoxy of the empire and were liquidated. (The novel Dark Mirror, though not canon of course, did say that Soong had been killed and that therefor there was no Data.) Much of whatever research was being done would concentrate on weapons, but everything else would probably be of lesser priority.
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Old April 25 2013, 03:47 PM   #13
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137th Gebirg wrote: View Post
^^^ Since we won't ever see what happened after Sato took over the MU, I chalk that up to her being lost with all hands following a military coup and all of Imperial Starfleet's vessels swarming Defiant all at once. Yes, she may be more powerful than each individual ship, but likely couldn't withstand an alpha strike from a large portion of a highly weaponized and armored fleet. The Imperial scientists wouldn't have had time to study its technology before getting destroyed. The only thing they would have had is a general layout, most likely, and 6-view orthos from sensor scans. Hence, the inspiration for the Imperial Constitution design in the 23rd Century, which they might never have had if the Defiant hadn't been there! Fits perfectly...
I've read that they planned to do more MU episodes had Enterprise had a fifth season, and I can imagine something like that happening.
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Old April 25 2013, 04:27 PM   #14
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Nope.
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Nope to what?
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