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Old April 20 2013, 03:57 PM   #451
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Re: Last Classic Who Story you watched

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I've only seen two Tom Baker stories: The Keeper of Traken and Logopolis. They were my first foray into classic Who so I probably didn't enjoy them on the same level I would now. Back then it was a huge change (at least for me) from nuWho. I should revisit them now that I have a better appreciation of the classic show and can appreciate the stories despite the low production values.
Very few of the stories were low production. There was a lot of cheesiness in there. But then again that's science fiction for you. It's what made a lot of TOS great also. Maybe looking back now they would be low production values but that's because of technological changes. Logopolis isn't a bad episode for the Baker era it's nowhere near his top episode. If you want good Baker it's basically anything from his first season. City of Death, Talons of Waing Chiang, Pyramid from Mars, Image of Fendahl, Terror of the Zygons, I could go on but there's a good reason he is a popular favorite doctor 40 years later.
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Old April 20 2013, 07:56 PM   #452
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I've only seen two Tom Baker stories: The Keeper of Traken and Logopolis. They were my first foray into classic Who so I probably didn't enjoy them on the same level I would now. Back then it was a huge change (at least for me) from nuWho. I should revisit them now that I have a better appreciation of the classic show and can appreciate the stories despite the low production values.
Very few of the stories were low production. There was a lot of cheesiness in there. But then again that's science fiction for you. It's what made a lot of TOS great also. Maybe looking back now they would be low production values but that's because of technological changes. Logopolis isn't a bad episode for the Baker era it's nowhere near his top episode. If you want good Baker it's basically anything from his first season. City of Death, Talons of Waing Chiang, Pyramid from Mars, Image of Fendahl, Terror of the Zygons, I could go on but there's a good reason he is a popular favorite doctor 40 years later.
I have to disagree, Logopolis is Bakers best. And is actually my favourite doctor who episode ever!

Meh, I've seen alot of his first season, and I think it's overated. I know this one's a clasic, but I think genisis of the daleks is far from Bakers best. Everone says how wonderfull it is and "it's the best serial ever!", but I didn't really care for it. I ever got the chance to see city of death, but I'd like to, Talons of Waing Chaing is very overated, it's just an average episode in my opinion if that. Pyramin fro Mars was quite boring as I recall, I didn't care for it at all. Image of Fendahl or terror f the Zygons are also both serials I;ve bever had the plessure or displeasure to see it.
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Old April 21 2013, 01:20 AM   #453
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I wanted to take a break from the McCoy stories so I ventured out yesterday to find myself another serial. I knew it would be more expensive to purchase one in a store rather than online, but I didn't feel like waiting to get it shipped.

I first tried to go after "The Twin Dilemma," but I was unable to find it anywhere (though just now I saw the first part is on youtube, I may give it a go there. Anyways, to make a long story short I went ahead and got the DVD set: Doctor Who: The Beginning. I figured it's about time I acquaint myself with the first Doctor:

An Unearthly Child

I'm not sure what my expectations were when I fired this one up. I knew it involved the Doctor as an old man travelling with his granddaughter and two school teachers. Well, I enjoyed the hell out of it, the first part of the four part serial kept me hooked as Ian and Barbara attempted to suss out the mystery of Susan (and by accident I watched both the "pilot" and the broadcast version, which actually left me a little disappointed with the broadcast version as some of the ideas put forth in the "pilot" were much more interesting than what we ended up with.

The second two parts of the serial drug a bit. I really enjoyed the first part because Ian and Barbara (and Susan and the Doctor) were such interesting characters, they seemed to take a back seat as we watched the story of the cavemen. Which in itself was interesting, so I'm not complaining too much about it. It's also nice in a way that I ended up watching this right after Remembrance of the Daleks as that serial had several call backs to this one. It's little touches like that which is the reason I love Doctor Who.

All in all, this was a strong opener, and I actually really like the First Doctor now. I did see him one other time in The Five Doctors but I'm not sure that completely counts

Up next: The Daleks. I can't wait to see this one, the first appearance of the Daleks should be a real corker. I like to watch these things in one sitting though, so I might have to wait till I can find time to watch all seven episodes of the serial.
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Old April 21 2013, 09:53 PM   #454
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i watched The Green Death yesterday. i'd seen it before but i've been watching a lot of 3rd Doctor stories and decided to see it again. i still think its kinda preachy in parts...especially that first episode. but i enjoy The Green Death. the Brig saying he never thought he'd fire in anger at a caterpillar still cracks me up.

and of all the 3rd Doctor's outfits his red and black suit in this story is my favorite.
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Old April 21 2013, 10:52 PM   #455
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I watched The Time Monster. New Who has got to bring back TOMTIT, what a riot, that had to sound funny even at the time of release. The TARDIS inside the TARDIS inside the TARDIS was a lot of fun, the Master is just such a hammy villain. How OTT is it to launch a V2 at UNIT? Looking online, it seems this one is pretty hated but despite its flaws I thought it was entertaining.

They really didn't know what to make of "women's lib" back then, did they? So embarrassing, I wanted to shoot that wet drip lab assistant guy. Too bad one of the Doctor's stronger companions, Liz, didn't last longer even if that era airhead Katy Manning is cute as a button.
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Old April 23 2013, 08:47 AM   #456
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Pyramids of Mars.

It's always been one of my favourite serials ever. It still is.
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Old April 23 2013, 09:03 AM   #457
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Caves of Androzani.

It was good then, it's good now.

I just listened to Mission to Magnus a 6/Peri lost story by the same writer as Caves featuring Sil and the Ice Warriors.

The two combined made me wonder if any companion was more perved over by the villains than Peri.

God bless her, may watch the Planet of Fire next - for reasons that have nothing to do with bikini clad American companions.
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Old April 23 2013, 03:20 PM   #458
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Caves of Androzani.

It was good then, it's good now.

I just listened to Mission to Magnus a 6/Peri lost story by the same writer as Caves featuring Sil and the Ice Warriors.
Androzani was by Robert Holmes, who did far too many Who stories to mention, starting with The Krotons and ending when he died halfway through writing the end of Trial of a Time Lord. Mission to Magnus was by Phillip Martin, who did the other two Sil stories, and whose crime series Gangsters becomes one of the most bizarrely surreal things ever produced.
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Old April 23 2013, 03:40 PM   #459
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Caves of Androzani.

It was good then, it's good now.

I just listened to Mission to Magnus a 6/Peri lost story by the same writer as Caves featuring Sil and the Ice Warriors.
Androzani was by Robert Holmes, who did far too many Who stories to mention, starting with The Krotons and ending when he died halfway through writing the end of Trial of a Time Lord. Mission to Magnus was by Phillip Martin, who did the other two Sil stories, and whose crime series Gangsters becomes one of the most bizarrely surreal things ever produced.
Weird, I am sure Phillip Martin said he wrote Androzani in one of Toby Hadokes Who's Round podcasts.

I must have mis-heard him.
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Old April 24 2013, 03:16 AM   #460
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The Three Doctors

I love the Brigadier's reaction to the interior of the Tardis.
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Old April 24 2013, 04:46 AM   #461
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Re: Last Classic Who Story you watched

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I've only seen two Tom Baker stories: The Keeper of Traken and Logopolis. They were my first foray into classic Who so I probably didn't enjoy them on the same level I would now. Back then it was a huge change (at least for me) from nuWho. I should revisit them now that I have a better appreciation of the classic show and can appreciate the stories despite the low production values.
Very few of the stories were low production. There was a lot of cheesiness in there. But then again that's science fiction for you. It's what made a lot of TOS great also. Maybe looking back now they would be low production values but that's because of technological changes. Logopolis isn't a bad episode for the Baker era it's nowhere near his top episode. If you want good Baker it's basically anything from his first season. City of Death, Talons of Waing Chiang, Pyramid from Mars, Image of Fendahl, Terror of the Zygons, I could go on but there's a good reason he is a popular favorite doctor 40 years later.
I have to disagree, Logopolis is Bakers best. And is actually my favourite doctor who episode ever!

Meh, I've seen alot of his first season, and I think it's overated. I know this one's a clasic, but I think genisis of the daleks is far from Bakers best. Everone says how wonderfull it is and "it's the best serial ever!", but I didn't really care for it. I ever got the chance to see city of death, but I'd like to, Talons of Waing Chaing is very overated, it's just an average episode in my opinion if that. Pyramin fro Mars was quite boring as I recall, I didn't care for it at all. Image of Fendahl or terror f the Zygons are also both serials I;ve bever had the plessure or displeasure to see it.
Image of the Fendahl is fun and scary! And there's a really weird bit in there where Leela, for no reason I've ever been able to fathom, decides to kiss one of the scientists!

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I wanted to take a break from the McCoy stories so I ventured out yesterday to find myself another serial. I knew it would be more expensive to purchase one in a store rather than online, but I didn't feel like waiting to get it shipped.

I first tried to go after "The Twin Dilemma," but I was unable to find it anywhere (though just now I saw the first part is on youtube, I may give it a go there. Anyways, to make a long story short I went ahead and got the DVD set: Doctor Who: The Beginning. I figured it's about time I acquaint myself with the first Doctor:

An Unearthly Child

I'm not sure what my expectations were when I fired this one up. I knew it involved the Doctor as an old man travelling with his granddaughter and two school teachers. Well, I enjoyed the hell out of it, the first part of the four part serial kept me hooked as Ian and Barbara attempted to suss out the mystery of Susan (and by accident I watched both the "pilot" and the broadcast version, which actually left me a little disappointed with the broadcast version as some of the ideas put forth in the "pilot" were much more interesting than what we ended up with.

The second two parts of the serial drug a bit. I really enjoyed the first part because Ian and Barbara (and Susan and the Doctor) were such interesting characters, they seemed to take a back seat as we watched the story of the cavemen. Which in itself was interesting, so I'm not complaining too much about it. It's also nice in a way that I ended up watching this right after Remembrance of the Daleks as that serial had several call backs to this one. It's little touches like that which is the reason I love Doctor Who.

All in all, this was a strong opener, and I actually really like the First Doctor now. I did see him one other time in The Five Doctors but I'm not sure that completely counts

Up next: The Daleks. I can't wait to see this one, the first appearance of the Daleks should be a real corker. I like to watch these things in one sitting though, so I might have to wait till I can find time to watch all seven episodes of the serial.
As I understand it, one of the prerequisites for watching this story is a couch to hide behind...

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Caves of Androzani.

It was good then, it's good now.

I just listened to Mission to Magnus a 6/Peri lost story by the same writer as Caves featuring Sil and the Ice Warriors.

The two combined made me wonder if any companion was more perved over by the villains than Peri.

God bless her, may watch the Planet of Fire next - for reasons that have nothing to do with bikini clad American companions.
Well... Romana II got a nice, low-cut gothic gown in State of Decay, Tegan shows a lot of cleavage on occasion, and Nyssa went all the way from the "velvet princess" of Keeper of Traken to stripping down to her underwear (thin tank top and very short & miniscule slip) in Terminus.

But while the guys may enjoy Peri in a bikini, I've always enjoyed Turlough in shorts!

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The Three Doctors

I love the Brigadier's reaction to the interior of the Tardis.
I wonder what the Brigadier would have thought of the later steampunk decor (Paul McGann era and later)!
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Old April 24 2013, 09:03 AM   #462
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But while the guys may enjoy Peri in a bikini, I've always enjoyed Turlough in shorts!
As much as I didn't like the character of Turlough I always felt sorry for him having to wear that awfull school uniform.
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Old April 24 2013, 09:07 PM   #463
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I finished City of Death a couple of days ago and that was enjoyable. I liked Julian Glover as the villain (he might have been a good Master around that time), and the bumbling inspector was amusing. Some of the running around Paris bits seemed to go on for so long it felt like a Parisian travelogue at times.

The John Cleese cameo was fun too.
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Been rewatching The Chase. It's a cheesy one, but my 5-year-old is fascinated.
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Just finished the first Doctor's story "Daleks."

It was neat seeing the Daleks for the first time, and I really do enjoy the first Doctor so far. However the story went on far too long, seven episodes seemed a bit excessive and it could have been compacted a bit more. I'm still bothered by the fact that The Doctor doesn't really feel like the central character yet. I understand that's not the shows fault since only two stories in they're still trying to find the rhythm of the show, it's just hard for me to get behind being exposed to the Doctor Who style of storytelling nowadays.
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