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Old April 20 2013, 04:27 AM   #136
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

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Memory Alpha seems to support this theory guys;

"Star Trek screenwriter Roberto Orci (in a post on Ain't It Cool News [3] as well as in an interview with Star Trek Magazine[4]) and J.J. Abrams (in an interview with MTV, conducted between the two aforementioned statements from Orci [5]) established a reason why technology in the alternate reality appears to be more advanced than it is during the same period in the prime reality; scans of the 24th century Narada, taken by the Kelvin, were brought back to Starfleet by the survivors on the Kelvin's shuttles."

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality
That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?
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Old April 20 2013, 04:53 AM   #137
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

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Memory Alpha seems to support this theory guys;

"Star Trek screenwriter Roberto Orci (in a post on Ain't It Cool News [3] as well as in an interview with Star Trek Magazine[4]) and J.J. Abrams (in an interview with MTV, conducted between the two aforementioned statements from Orci [5]) established a reason why technology in the alternate reality appears to be more advanced than it is during the same period in the prime reality; scans of the 24th century Narada, taken by the Kelvin, were brought back to Starfleet by the survivors on the Kelvin's shuttles."

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality
That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?
No kindergarten
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Old April 20 2013, 06:57 AM   #138
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

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Memory Alpha seems to support this theory guys;

"Star Trek screenwriter Roberto Orci (in a post on Ain't It Cool News [3] as well as in an interview with Star Trek Magazine[4]) and J.J. Abrams (in an interview with MTV, conducted between the two aforementioned statements from Orci [5]) established a reason why technology in the alternate reality appears to be more advanced than it is during the same period in the prime reality; scans of the 24th century Narada, taken by the Kelvin, were brought back to Starfleet by the survivors on the Kelvin's shuttles."

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality
That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?
Magnets.
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Old April 20 2013, 08:04 AM   #139
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

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That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
I explain away all the differences that cannot be ascribed to the Narada with the fact that this is the Enterprise timeline that was started when the Enterprise E came back from the future in First Contact.
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Old April 20 2013, 09:14 AM   #140
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That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
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Old April 20 2013, 10:07 AM   #141
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That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?
Magnets.
I've always wanted to know how they work. But I guess I never will...

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Old April 21 2013, 01:32 AM   #142
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That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?
No kindergarten
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Old April 21 2013, 10:26 PM   #143
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Memory Alpha seems to support this theory guys;

"Star Trek screenwriter Roberto Orci (in a post on Ain't It Cool News [3] as well as in an interview with Star Trek Magazine[4]) and J.J. Abrams (in an interview with MTV, conducted between the two aforementioned statements from Orci [5]) established a reason why technology in the alternate reality appears to be more advanced than it is during the same period in the prime reality; scans of the 24th century Narada, taken by the Kelvin, were brought back to Starfleet by the survivors on the Kelvin's shuttles."

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality
That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
It was? In what way?

The romulan disguise ship from ENTERPRISE looked like something cobbled together from parts of the Narada after in collapsed into its final black Hole.

I'm thinking that pieces of it may have been strewn all across the timeline in addition to slaver tech--allowing for JJ's universe to stem from ENTERPRISE. The temporal cold war may have something to do with that.

Without, Archer becomes a Daedalus captain.

Seeing JJ likes to throw the fans a bone, I'll say the weapon is an anti-proton cannon--absolutely pure. (spock primes contribution)

What is really odd is this.

Cutting-edge100(?) was calling for someone to make a Sovereign, but with a more circular hull and for the deflector secondary hull fairing to not run up so far underneath the saucer.

Guess what, it looks like JJ himself has given her the very ship she was asking for.

And now that you see it--it is a pretty great design.
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Old April 23 2013, 05:43 PM   #144
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The Dreadnought is the same colour as the Narada was. Coincidence, or an ubership built from reverse-engineered technology?
"Thanks to reverse-engineered technology from the future, we've finally unlocked the key to manufacturing black paint."


Hey, Geordi seemed to rediscover the lost ancient art of rebooting a buggered-up computer in "Contagion", so you never know!
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Old April 23 2013, 09:31 PM   #145
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USS Vengeance? Could they have made it more vague that Harrison is out for revenge!?

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Old April 23 2013, 09:41 PM   #146
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

Blegh...that thing looks like something I made out of Legos when I was 8. Not thrilled about that name, either...it's a bit on the nose.
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Old April 23 2013, 10:13 PM   #147
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I made this lightened version of the image to see all the details of the ship.

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Old April 23 2013, 10:20 PM   #148
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Wow, thanks. That's much better. I didn't even notice the cut-outs in the saucer in the darker pic.

That is quite a beast of a ship. They need to have Kirk say "You are one ugly mudderfucker," Predator style.

I guess those two long pod-like thingies on the sides of the neck are the giant "guns" that we see flipping outward and then focusing on the Enterprise in the third trailer.
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Old April 23 2013, 10:32 PM   #149
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Wow, it certainly looks monsterous. "USS Star Empire" sounds a lot cooler than "USS Vengeance" though.
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Old April 23 2013, 10:38 PM   #150
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