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Old December 14 2012, 02:55 PM   #16
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Re: Earth: Final Conflict (beware spoiler)

Season 4 was one seaosn which seemed to have consistent direction to it, what with the core energy shortage and the Taelons facing extinction.
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Old December 14 2012, 04:41 PM   #17
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Did Okie ever post up his plan for EFC?
Back on one of the old Andromeda fan boards, he once made a brief post about his plans, but nothing very detailed, and I'm afraid I don't remember what he said.

By the way -- as i remember it, Season 4 FELT like they were heading back to the feeling of season 1....and that got me excited about Season 5. ooops.
I'd lost interest by season 4. In season 3, it had become focused on Liam and Renee, and the only character development either of them seemed to get was that they kept getting progressively blonder. And then there was Zo'or getting obsessed with getting rich, which was a tragic descent from the fascinating alienness and ambiguity the Taelons originally had.
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Old April 23 2013, 09:20 AM   #18
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I managed to struggle (and I erally do mean struggle) my way through the first 4 seasons. Was very difficult!

There was a bit more order to the 4th season but it still ended ratehr abruptly. Suddenly the Taelons and the Jeridians were friends.

Just started season 5. Funnily enough, I am actually enjoying it a bit.
Maybe I am a sucker for punishment!
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Old April 23 2013, 12:15 PM   #19
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Season One was by far the best. S2 was pretty bad. S3 was neutral. S4 actually managed to get pretty good again and made a great ending to the series. Just stop there and don't watch S5
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Old April 23 2013, 04:16 PM   #20
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Season 5 seemed to be a completely different tv show.
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Old April 29 2013, 04:46 PM   #21
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I enjoyed the post Boone years, at least seasons 2-4. 5 was a disappointment to say the least, though I did appreciate the series finale in some ways. Liam Kincaid is my favorite character from the series, probably part of the reason I'm partial to the years after Boone.
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Old April 29 2013, 05:28 PM   #22
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Yea, I enjoyed S1 - S4 mostly as well. S5, I think was a pretty bold idea, and could've been a Classic, because of going where few shows would dare, out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Sadly, the execution (And probably the budget as well) didn't live up to the potential of the idea
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Old April 30 2013, 01:42 AM   #23
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Liam Kincaid is my favorite character from the series, probably part of the reason I'm partial to the years after Boone.
In all honesty, I've always preferred Liam Kincaid over William Boone myself.
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Old April 30 2013, 01:46 AM   #24
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Actor-wise, I found Robert Leeshock more likeable than Kevin Kilner. But writing-wise, Boone was a much richer character and I loved his relationship with Da'an. I've already remarked on how I felt Liam and Renee had no personality to speak of in seasons 3-4.
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Old April 30 2013, 01:58 AM   #25
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To be honest, Boone was always bland and unmemorable to me and Liam just seemed to have more presence. Plus I found Liam's alien origin more interesting than Boone's ex-army officer turned cop background.
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Old April 30 2013, 03:31 AM   #26
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To be honest, Boone was always bland and unmemorable to me and Liam just seemed to have more presence.
Actor-wise, yes. Writing-wise, no.

Plus I found Liam's alien origin more interesting than Boone's ex-army officer turned cop background.
I could never get past the idiocy of his origin, growing to maturity in like 30 seconds. Not to mention the sexism of bringing in a new male lead in such a stupid way rather than just having Lili Marquette become the new lead character (which would've been a natural -- they were setting up a Lili-Da'an relationship late in season 1 that could've easily taken the place of the Boone-Da'an relationship which was the philosophical heart of the show).
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Old April 30 2013, 10:02 PM   #27
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I didn't really like the whole "born and grown before the credits" thing either, but I got over it. Interesting idea about promoting Lili. Of course, if they had done that and introduced Liam anyway, he'd probably end up becoming the lead anyway a year later when she was written off. I think that would have likely happened anyway, since it was Lisa Howard's choice to leave the show to focus on her family life.
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Old April 30 2013, 10:33 PM   #28
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I didn't really like the whole "born and grown before the credits" thing either, but I got over it. Interesting idea about promoting Lili. Of course, if they had done that and introduced Liam anyway, he'd probably end up becoming the lead anyway a year later when she was written off. I think that would have likely happened anyway, since it was Lisa Howard's choice to leave the show to focus on her family life.
Lily's character never worked for me. I don't know if it was Lisa Howard's acting skills, or the Direction she was given, but, the character always seemed so wooden to me, not natural at all (And I do like the Sinclair character in B5 who is often called wooden), so I was happy to see Renee take over her spot.
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Old April 30 2013, 10:45 PM   #29
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I didn't really like the whole "born and grown before the credits" thing either, but I got over it. Interesting idea about promoting Lili. Of course, if they had done that and introduced Liam anyway, he'd probably end up becoming the lead anyway a year later when she was written off. I think that would have likely happened anyway, since it was Lisa Howard's choice to leave the show to focus on her family life.
Lily's character never worked for me. I don't know if it was Lisa Howard's acting skills, or the Direction she was given, but, the character always seemed so wooden to me, not natural at all (And I do like the Sinclair character in B5 who is often called wooden), so I was happy to see Renee take over her spot.
I know a lot of people are going to accuse me of uttering blasphemy here, but I found a lot about season 1 came off as wooden. Not just the acting, but the writing as well.
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Old April 30 2013, 11:36 PM   #30
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Kevin Kilner was definitely wooden, but I liked Lisa Howard. Okay, I liked her largely because she was really hot, but I had no problems with her acting. And Von Flores was always extremely good. In later seasons I kept hoping he'd be written out so he could get a gig more worthy of his talents, but he just stayed with the show, and since then I don't think I've seen him in much of anything, which is a shame.
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