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Old April 20 2013, 06:00 PM   #31
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

I wasn't aware that TOS' Harrison was ever given a first name. I thought he was just called "Harrison".

And in any case, that's a rather common name, ain't it? So assuming it's the same person would be reaching.
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Old April 20 2013, 07:26 PM   #32
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Should I be getting nervous about the helmeted Klingons? The more I look at those helmet/mask things, the more they feel like a cheap way to dodge the Klingon head ridge issue. I sincerely hope we get a look at them under the helmets and they look like they did in the recent comics.
I read somewhere (probably Trekmovie) that Klingons do indeed appear on screen without helmets and that they have ridges and piercings.

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http://www.treknews.net/2012/12/10/k...into-darkness/

"We’ve seen Klingons! They do have forehead ridges but with ornamental piercings and facial hair out of the original series!"
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Old April 23 2013, 03:44 AM   #33
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

I'm still doubtful that Harrison is actually Khan. I think he is more likely one of Khan's supermen, perhaps even Joachim, or possibly one of their descendants. I suspect Khan himself is waiting in the wings to be set up as the Big Bad for the third movie. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the much-discussed scene with the two figures exiting the chamber filled with cryo-tubes is actually the very last scene of the film.

Not that I'm actually predicting this, mind you, but what if all that stuff about Benicio Del Toro almost but not quite signing up to play the villain was just a red herring? What if he really did sign up to play the villain, just not in this movie?

Then again, maybe Harrison is Khan, but that pretty much requires abandoning all pretense that this timeline branched off from the original as recently as the incursion of the Narada, which was admittedly hard to swallow in the first place. Who knows, maybe the timelines originally diverged all the way back in the Eugenics Wars. In fact, a pet theory of mine is that the nuTrek timeline is actually our future where the Eugenics Wars never happened in the 1990s, if at all.

Guess we'll know soon enough.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:56 AM   #34
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

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I'm still doubtful that Harrison is actually Khan. I think he is more likely one of Khan's supermen, perhaps even Joachim, or possibly one of their descendants. I suspect Khan himself is waiting in the wings to be set up as the Big Bad for the third movie. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the much-discussed scene with the two figures exiting the chamber filled with cryo-tubes is actually the very last scene of the film.

Not that I'm actually predicting this, mind you, but what if all that stuff about Benicio Del Toro almost but not quite signing up to play the villain was just a red herring? What if he really did sign up to play the villain, just not in this movie?

Then again, maybe Harrison is Khan, but that pretty much requires abandoning all pretense that this timeline branched off from the original as recently as the incursion of the Narada, which was admittedly hard to swallow in the first place. Who knows, maybe the timelines originally diverged all the way back in the Eugenics Wars. In fact, a pet theory of mine is that the nuTrek timeline is actually our future where the Eugenics Wars never happened in the 1990s, if at all.

Guess we'll know soon enough.
Now that would be a cool twist, having Khan thawed out at the end of this film.


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Old April 23 2013, 02:24 PM   #35
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

I'm thinking he's that guy from Futurama.
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Old April 23 2013, 07:44 PM   #36
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Well, golly...
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Old April 23 2013, 08:50 PM   #37
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old April 24 2013, 12:21 AM   #38
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Just hold on a minute. This could be more misdirection from Abrams. Maybe the premiere screening has been cunningly edited to give the illusion Harrison is Khan, convincing fans worldwide that they finally know the truth. Then, when it premieres proper to the public - bam! The final curve ball will be thrown and we will leave the theater in awe of the web of obfuscation JJ has masterminded.

Oh JJ, you clever sausage. I'm on to you! (It's gonna be Mitchell, right? Gotta be Gary Mitchell.)
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Old April 24 2013, 03:37 AM   #39
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Here's something, BTW - given how few and how carefully constructed the scenes which reveal Harrison's other identity are, it's quite possible that most of the cast who were being asked about it never saw a page of script or appeared in a scene in which he was referred to other than as "John Harrison."
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Old April 24 2013, 10:54 AM   #40
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it's quite possible that most of the cast who were being asked about it never saw a page of script or appeared in a scene in which he was referred to other than as "John Harrison."
He's also still John Harrison in the closing credits.

Incidentally,
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