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Old April 17 2013, 01:18 PM   #31
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Re: Starship crash sequence from the MTV Awards

Just a quick note; anyone else reckon that that white torpedoey looking thing being hoisted up in that photo is actually the 'Genesis' Torpedo? Being used to create 'New Vulcan' perhaps?
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Old April 17 2013, 02:35 PM   #32
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Alcatraz is 3 miles from San Fran according to Google maps.
Alcatraz is somewhere in Germany according to Apple Maps.
Wrong Alcatraz.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:57 PM   #33
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Yeah, we're talking about General Alcatraz, El Presidente Mucho Supremo of San Theodoros. Also known to have founded a Swedish dance band and inspired a European airline merger, ultimately defeated by his fiendish rival General Tapioca and thus dooming Swissair. Also, a type of castle in Spain.

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Old April 17 2013, 03:06 PM   #34
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Alcatraz is 3 miles from San Fran according to Google maps.
Not that far - the swimming leg of the current "Escape from Alcatraz" triathlon is 1.5 miles. If you were to head straight across the island toward Fisherman's Wharf, it might be a little bit less than a mile.
From the angle of the hit, swerving aside, it looks like the ship is heading to the Pier 39, North Beach, Embarcadero Dr. area.
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Old April 17 2013, 03:20 PM   #35
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Alcatraz is 3 miles from San Fran according to Google maps.
Not that far - the swimming leg of the current "Escape from Alcatraz" triathlon is 1.5 miles. If you were to head straight across the island toward Fisherman's Wharf, it might be a little bit less than a mile.
From the angle of the hit, swerving aside, it looks like the ship is heading to the Pier 39, North Beach, Embarcadero Dr. area.
To me it look like it's heading towards the Marina district.
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Old April 17 2013, 04:03 PM   #36
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It's crushing the former site of the giant whale aquarium as a protest by the Department of Temporal Investigations for Prime Kirk's unauthorized incursion into the 20th century.

What?
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Old April 17 2013, 04:04 PM   #37
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Not that far - the swimming leg of the current "Escape from Alcatraz" triathlon is 1.5 miles. If you were to head straight across the island toward Fisherman's Wharf, it might be a little bit less than a mile.
From the angle of the hit, swerving aside, it looks like the ship is heading to the Pier 39, North Beach, Embarcadero Dr. area.
To me it look like it's heading towards the Marina district.
I don't know. Maybe. It looked to me like it hit the cellhouse straight down its length, going right over the lighthouse. That would mean it was heading more or less southeast, and if it didn't veer at all, it could've conceivably skidded all the way to the Bay Bridge. That's why I placed landfall somewhere in North Beach. Of course, I guess it could've veered even farther west towards the Marina District when it hit the water, but I think it's the poor sea lions at Pier 39 who are going to have the bad day.
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Old April 17 2013, 07:07 PM   #38
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From the angle of the hit, swerving aside, it looks like the ship is heading to the Pier 39, North Beach, Embarcadero Dr. area.
To me it look like it's heading towards the Marina district.
I don't know. Maybe. It looked to me like it hit the cellhouse straight down its length, going right over the lighthouse. That would mean it was heading more or less southeast, and if it didn't veer at all, it could've conceivably skidded all the way to the Bay Bridge. That's why I placed landfall somewhere in North Beach. Of course, I guess it could've veered even farther west towards the Marina District when it hit the water, but I think it's the poor sea lions at Pier 39 who are going to have the bad day.
The guard tower is in the foreground.
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Old April 17 2013, 07:54 PM   #39
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To me it look like it's heading towards the Marina district.
I don't know. Maybe. It looked to me like it hit the cellhouse straight down its length, going right over the lighthouse. That would mean it was heading more or less southeast, and if it didn't veer at all, it could've conceivably skidded all the way to the Bay Bridge. That's why I placed landfall somewhere in North Beach. Of course, I guess it could've veered even farther west towards the Marina District when it hit the water, but I think it's the poor sea lions at Pier 39 who are going to have the bad day.
The guard tower is in the foreground.
Um, no. Not to belabor the point, but unless you see something I don't, that's the light house you're mistaking for a guard tower. The ruins of the warden's house are next to it (just to its left, our right). Those things are really there, today.
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Old April 17 2013, 08:13 PM   #40
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Yeah, we're talking about General Alcatraz, El Presidente Mucho Supremo of San Theodoros. Also known to have founded a Swedish dance band and inspired a European airline merger, ultimately defeated by his fiendish rival General Tapioca and thus dooming Swissair. Also, a type of castle in Spain.

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Timo said it, so it must be canon.
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Old April 17 2013, 10:39 PM   #41
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I don't know. Maybe. It looked to me like it hit the cellhouse straight down its length, going right over the lighthouse. That would mean it was heading more or less southeast, and if it didn't veer at all, it could've conceivably skidded all the way to the Bay Bridge. That's why I placed landfall somewhere in North Beach. Of course, I guess it could've veered even farther west towards the Marina District when it hit the water, but I think it's the poor sea lions at Pier 39 who are going to have the bad day.
The guard tower is in the foreground.
Um, no. Not to belabor the point, but unless you see something I don't, that's the light house you're mistaking for a guard tower. The ruins of the warden's house are next to it (just to its left, our right). Those things are really there, today.
You're right it is a lighthouse. Well is a photo of San Francisco, with Alcatraz in the foreground. I think the island itself is in the same angle that you said that the crashing was heading.
I hope the link works?

http://youshouldstoprunning.com/wp-c.../Alcatraz.jpeg
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Old April 18 2013, 12:08 AM   #42
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The guard tower is in the foreground.
Um, no. Not to belabor the point, but unless you see something I don't, that's the light house you're mistaking for a guard tower. The ruins of the warden's house are next to it (just to its left, our right). Those things are really there, today.
You're right it is a lighthouse. Well is a photo of San Francisco, with Alcatraz in the foreground. I think the island itself is in the same angle that you said that the crashing was heading.
I hope the link works?

http://youshouldstoprunning.com/wp-c.../Alcatraz.jpeg
They could also take artistic license with the geography of the area. The ship hits Alcatraz for maximum kewlness effect, then goes ashore somewhere that provides maximum kewlness effect at the expese of geogrpahical accuracy. Wouldn't bother me at all.

The way the ship is falling from the sky, it does look like it's heading more for the area of the Marina Disctrict than North Beach (kind of SW). But the way it hits Alcatraz, it's going SE.
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Old April 19 2013, 11:54 PM   #43
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I suspect, but cannot prove, that the ship that hits Alcatraz is NOT the Super Starship that we see in the preview.
It seems to be the same one, see the exact same triangular 'holes' in the saucer:



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Old April 20 2013, 08:13 AM   #44
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Alcatraz is somewhere in Germany according to Apple Maps.
What? I didn't know that the continental drift had gone that far yet!
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Old April 20 2013, 09:01 AM   #45
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Alcatraz is somewhere in Germany according to Apple Maps.
What? I didn't know that the continental drift had gone that far yet!
There is a Alcatraz in Germany. It's a prison that was turn into a Hotel. It's in Berlin, East Berlin.

Then there's Alcatraz Island.
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