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Old April 11 2013, 03:48 AM   #106
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Whether Phlox is morally bankrupt is based on humanity's perception of ethics. His position may be popular opinion in his own culture. But this allows us as humans to look down on Denobulan culture as morally inferior to our own.
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Old April 12 2013, 11:30 AM   #107
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1:14 Sleeping Dogs

TV Blurb: Another derelict ship, T'Pol hocus pocuses Hoshi, and Malcolm takes his shirt off.

Hoshi gains more confidence in herself as she volunteers for a shuttle mission to an endangered alien ship. Written by Fred Dekker. Directed by Les Landau.

I did 4 watches of this in the last 36 hours, yet took no written notes since nothing jumped out at me. Comparing the Hoshi story with Archer's story with the aliens, common elements seem to involve responsibility and trust.

We get some good though hazy looks at the alien scout ship including schematic sketches.

Dominic Keating fans may enjoy his long shirtless scene.

Next: "Shadows of P'Jem"
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Old April 12 2013, 05:35 PM   #108
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Yeah... Phlox basically proves he's morally bankrupt by condoning genocide in this episode and Archer seems more bothered that he got involved with their problem than the moral implications they're facing.
WHAT!!!

I guess I REALLY need to re-watch it if that's the case. I thought the plot was that the lower species was evolving and replacing the more advanced yet heading towards extinction species. I thought Phlox DID come up with a "cure" but they decided in the end; not to interfere with the natural evolution of the planet. Am I wrong?
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Old April 12 2013, 09:23 PM   #109
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. . .Am I wrong?
No, that pretty much accurately describes what I repeatedly watched two days ago. Archer stalls, giving them a vaccine to slow the progress of the disease, but encouraging them to find their own cure. I don't think he says "we found a cure but you can't have it, nyah", but he does refuse them when asked for warp drive.
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Old April 14 2013, 02:39 AM   #110
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1:15 - Shadows of P'Jem

TV Blurb: After being captured, TPol improvises, Archer gets a bust in the face, and Trip & Malcolm's rescue gets a little blue.

After the Andorians destroy a previously discovered observation post, the Vulcans blame Starfleet and order T'Pol home. Teleplay by Mike Sussman & Phyllis Strong; Story by Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. Directed by Mike Vejar.

Some nice action/stunts, but I get tired of all the fighting at night or in low lighting situations, though it's easier for stunt substitutions.

Jeffrey Combs returns, and Trekvet Gregory Itzen makes his first Enterprise appearance, as a Vulcan ordered to retrieve T'Pol. Steven Dennis also returns.

Connor Trinneer gets some good moments when Trip, in command, has several unpleasant communications hails.

Next: "Shuttlepod One"
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Old April 15 2013, 03:50 AM   #111
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1:16 - Shuttlepod One

TV Blurb: In a damaged shuttle, Tucker and Reed find evidence suggesting Enterprise was destroyed. Written by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga. Directed by David Livingston.

One of the things Star Trek does well is putting two characters in a room and watching them go after each other. Here, Dominic Keating and Connor Trinneer must get 90% of the episode's running time to themselves. It's excellent work from the two stars, and gives a lot of insight into why Malcolm is so reserved.

Music is used effectively as Malcolm loses himself in his romanticism of tradition while preparing for the end. Trip focuses on staying positive, especially after finding a surprise in the rations bin.

I watched this four times before writing, it's wonderful work from Keating and Trinneer.

The season/series collection has a featurette on the making of the episode.

Next: "Fusion"
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Old April 16 2013, 10:45 PM   #112
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1:17 - Fusion

TV Blurb: Vulcans with their own methods of balancing emotion with logic visit Enterprise, and one tries to get T'Pol to open her mind. Teleplay by Phyllis Strong & Mike Sussman; Story by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga. Directed by Rob Hedden.

The series continues to remind us not all Vulcans are from Spock's mold, with three different personalities. Captain Tavin (Robert Pine), seems easy going, willing to try new experiences, and comes off as likeable. Engineer Kov (John Harrington Bland) is a friendly, technically focused type who gets along well with Trip.

The third Vulcan, Tolaris (Enrique Murciano), is the random element. I'm not sure what his job was on the Vulcan ship, but he seemed inordinately pleased with himself throughout. And I didn't like him from first setting eyes on him. I have to give actor Murciano credit, because I even found the many angles of Tolaris simply taking a bite of food irritating. He introduces T'Pol to the mind meld, which plays like a rape scene and is treated as such by Archer.

I liked the fight scene in Archer's ready room, and wish we'd seen more evidence of Vulcans' superior strength. T'Pol going gangbusters on someone would have been great.

I'm puzzled as to why John Harrington Bland wasn't given billing with the other guest actors, as his character figures more prominently in the plot than Pine's.

The blooper reel appears to have an outtake of the episode's final scene, when Scott Bakula intentionally makes an entrance Jolene Blalock isn't expecting.

Next: "Rogue Planet"
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Old April 16 2013, 10:56 PM   #113
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Fusion was one of my favorites from season one.
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Old April 17 2013, 07:40 PM   #114
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Yeah, I liked Fusion too. It showed off one of the things Jolene did bring to the role that others playing Vulcan's had not; vulnerability.
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Old April 19 2013, 12:10 AM   #115
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1:18 Rogue Planet

A landing party investigates a drifting planet regularly visited by alien outdoor sports enthusiasts who hunt native wildlife. Teleplay by Chris Black; Story by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga & Chris Black. Directed by Allen Kroeker.

Another ghost story that failed to impress me after first viewing in original broadcast. I'm able to appreciate it better now, but still dissatisfied with some aspects.

This is basically a sci-fi jazzed up retelling of old folklore or fairy tales. What would traditionally be supernatural explanations are given 22nd century Treknobabble. My biggest problem is it's a ghost story with mysterious wraiths that can appear as anything, like changelings.

Though on the most recent viewing before writing, it did give me pause. It's possible the first human contact with an alien creature might be very much like this-- a mystery to be revealed, because it doesn't resemble what we consider "life".

Trekvets Conor O'Farrell and Eric Pierpoint guest star.

Next: "Acquisition"
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Old April 20 2013, 12:15 AM   #116
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1:19 - Acquisition

TV Blurb: Unidentified short, orange-skinned, large-headed aliens with really big ears incapacitate Enterprise's crew and plunder the ship. Teleplay by Maria Jacquemetton & Andre Jacquemetton; Story by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga. Directed by James Whitmore, Jr.

was my reaction when seeing this in first broadcast. All my hopes that Enterprise would be a success pretty much vanished at this point.

It's like old home week with Trekvets Jeffrey Combs and Ethan Phillips returning, as well as SuperTrekvet Clint Howard, who entered Trek lore as the tiny Balok in "The Corbomite Maneuver" at about age 7.

There are so many problems with this episode which have been endlessly enumerated, there's no point in going through them again. I blame Rick Berman, because he of all people should have known the guest aliens were out of place.

Since the whole thing is just a mindless comedy, it's best just to watch the performances and try to recognize the guest stars.

Connor Trinneer spends the first 20 minutes in blue underwear.

Nexr: "Oasis"
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I don't think Acquisition is terrible but it's just another episode that depends on Archer being a complete noob in order for the story to fit into the greater tapestry.
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Old April 20 2013, 01:43 AM   #118
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The amazing thing is these aliens are previously mentioned in dialogue, other species encountered had dealings with them, Enterprise security cameras must have recorded images, yet they stay completely unidentified for another 200 years. Someone in Starfleet Intelligence was sleeping at the switch.
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1:20 - Oasis

TV Blurb: Now you see them, now you don't. Odo shows his true face.

Searching for supplies, Enterprise investigates reports of a derelict ship and its ghostly crew. Teleplay by Stephen Beck; Story by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga & Stephen Beck. Directed by Jim Charleston.

Shakespeare's The Tempest via Forbidden Planet via DS9: Shadowplay. Guest starring Rene Auberjonois. 'Nuff said.

Oh, and it's another freaking ghost story. Enterprise seems to want to be the Hammer Films Star Trek. It's wonderful that Rene showed his support for the franchise, but why couldn't it have been a story that wasn't a rehash of an episode he was already prominent in? Poor judgement on Berman & Braga's part.

I can't think of a single original idea in this story. Auberjonois does what he can, but the script wastes this talented actor.

Next: "Detained"
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Got to say, I don't really remember anything about Oasis. Sounds like I'm lucky.
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