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Old April 19 2013, 07:59 PM   #16
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

The Sisko is really not himself right now, he's back in his S1 mindset. I'm confident he'll pull himself out of it eventually.
I also hope that he gets a new story where he's more like season 7
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Old April 19 2013, 09:00 PM   #17
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

The Sisko is really not himself right now, he's back in his S1 mindset. I'm confident he'll pull himself out of it eventually.
You need to read Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn.
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Old April 19 2013, 09:48 PM   #18
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

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The Sisko is really not himself right now, he's back in his S1 mindset. I'm confident he'll pull himself out of it eventually.
You need to read Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn.
Oh yeah, I did. Its been a while though. I read them when they first came out.

Probably explains why I was so sure he'd pull through. I wanted to say he already had but I just couldn't remember.
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Old April 20 2013, 11:38 AM   #19
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Don't forget that there was the novelization of Far Beyond The Stars. While I haven't read the novel (although it is on my shelf and on my "To Read" list), as I recall the episode Sisko and his 1950's counterpart, Benny Russell, were the lead characters.

But with the numbered novels I don't recall any one particular novel centering him out. Sisko did play big roles in the novels, but it was kind of like he was there, but we need to focus on the rest of the ensemble. The Siege had Sisko in it, but it was more an Odo novel, whereas Bloodletter was a Kira novel and both The Big Game and The 34th Rule were novels about Quark. I do recall that in The Long Night, Sisko is presented as being an amateur historian on the long-lost emperor that people are looking to find in that book, but that's a book where all or most of the cast members seemed to get their own scene.
Good question by the OP and this is a good observation by Tom Swift. Sort of reminds me a lot of the TV shows, where Sisko is there, either in the mix or prominently in the background, but the episode is about something or someone else.

I'm wracking my brain trying to think of Sisko-centric stories that I've read that haven't already been mentioned and I can't think of many. Granted I only read a handful of DS9 numbered novels though, but the only one I can think of that was mainly about Sisko was Saratoga. Back then I did find it very similar to Reunion but I didn't mind so much since it gave me a glimpse at Sisko's history. From what I recall, I don't think that MJF's Saratoga characters stood out as much as his Reunion characters did.

I didn't see the Lost Era's Catalyst of Sorrows mentioned. I thought it was a decent entry in that series and I liked the idea of Sisko and Tuvok teaming up.

There is the novelization for Emissary too that you might want to check out. I'm guessing the What You Leave Behind novelization probably has a lot of Sisko in it, though I am guessing here since I didn't read it.

There was the book Hollow Men (I haven't read it), but Sisko is on the cover and I thought it was supposed to be a sequel to "The Pale Moonlight".

As for DRGIII's recent Sisko-heavy trilogy, I've got mixed feelings about it, trending toward the negative. I think Raise the Dawn at least mitigated some of the damage of Rough Beasts and Plagues of Night that DRG did to Sisko's character. Why he felt the need to try to return Sisko to a Season 1 mindset is beyond me. (Outside of Emissary and a few spots here and there Season 1 Sisko was too remote a presence. He got much better as a character after he shaved his head.)
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Old April 20 2013, 01:15 PM   #20
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

As I recall the novelization was basically a bare-bones retelling of the episode. It wasn't like TNG's "All Good Things" or Voyager's "Endgame" novelizations where it added a lot of new material (I recall the book was just a little thicker and longer than Carey's novelization of "Trials And Tribble-ations").

I haven't read too many of the YA Deep Space Nine books, but most of those were about Sisko's son, Jake and Jake's friend, Nog. But of the one's I've read Ben Sisko didn't play that big of a role in those ones either.

But with the adult DS9 novels, aside from the ones already mentioned, the only ones where Sisko is out front (but they are really ensemble books) are #6 "Betrayal" (because Sisko has to be a negotiator) and #8 "Antimatter" where Sisko and team have to track down a stolen shipment of antimatter.
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Old April 20 2013, 02:56 PM   #21
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

^ I don't recall the novelization of "Endgame" having anything additional. The novelization of "What You Leave Behind" has an additional battle, this one in orbit of Cardassia, and a scene where Sisko, Martok and Admiral Ross watch Jem'Hadar ships enter the wormhole.
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Old April 21 2013, 06:51 PM   #22
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

"Endgame" expanded the Chakotay-Seven story that was started on screen with the picnic, future Janeway visiting Chakotay's grave and her later conversation with present Janeway about Seven's death.
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Old April 21 2013, 10:18 PM   #23
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Re: Benjamin Benny Russel needs better tales.

You may be right, although the scene with Janeway dancing on Chakotay's grave is in the episode:

http://voy.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dgame_0138.jpg
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Old April 22 2013, 10:35 AM   #24
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I did say that it was in the episode. But in the episode itself that was one of only three times where the Chakotay-Seven thread was explored, whereas in the novel Carey actually gave us more on that thread.
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