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Old April 9 2013, 10:04 PM   #46
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Kirk does rotate the chambers--counter-clockwise.
I thought so, but I wasn't sure enough of my memory to say so. Thanks for pinning it down.

I wonder, is there any visible change in the lights on the front right portion of the rifle when he switches barrels?
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Old April 9 2013, 10:15 PM   #47
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Re: Original Phaser Rifle Prop Found!

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Kirk does rotate the chambers--counter-clockwise.
I thought so, but I wasn't sure enough of my memory to say so. Thanks for pinning it down.

I wonder, is there any visible change in the lights on the front right portion of the rifle when he switches barrels?
If the whole thing is made of wood, I'm doubtful there was any wiring to make things light up.

Also, the three colors of the tubes are red, orange, and yellow--the same colors that are on the little rectangular buttons on one side and as the circles on the other side.

Interestingly, the tube that's "in line" with the barrel/emitter is at the apex of the equilateral triangle formed by the three tubes. Yet, when Shatner shoots the rock leading to Mitchell's demise, it looks like the tubes aren't in their locked position: it appears the apex of the triangle is actually down at the bottom. (I suppose there's a different name for "an apex that's at the bottom.")

Ed: It looks like it's antapex.
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Old April 9 2013, 10:48 PM   #48
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. . . It's also clear that the phaser rifle design was distinctly separate from the other props that all had some design commonality (black body material with silver metal trim).
Obviously, in-universe, the phaser rifle was made by a different weapons manufacturer -- probably the same one that supplied Starfleet with the old-style hand lasers.




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One problem I always had with that "Where No Man" rifle was it looks like it's from a 1950's pulp magazine cover, exactly what Roddenberry was trying to avoid.
The laser gun from Fantastic Voyage looks even pulpier.

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Old April 9 2013, 11:17 PM   #49
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If the whole thing is made of wood, I'm doubtful there was any wiring to make things light up.
In the close-up photos, the material looks more like the kind of metal that a lot of '50s and '60s appliances were made of.


Also, the three colors of the tubes are red, orange, and yellow--the same colors that are on the little rectangular buttons on one side and as the circles on the other side.
Right, I couldn't see them clearly in the embedded video's freeze frame that I was referring to. You're right about the colors, but the point is that the lights on the front match the color coding of the tubes and the rear buttons, so presumably they're meant as indicator lights to represent the three settings.

Interestingly, the tube that's "in line" with the barrel/emitter is at the apex of the equilateral triangle formed by the three tubes. Yet, when Shatner shoots the rock leading to Mitchell's demise, it looks like the tubes aren't in their locked position: it appears the apex of the triangle is actually down at the bottom.

Now that you mention it, I noticed that too, that the barrels were out of alignment. I guess that was a mistake they didn't catch.

(I suppose there's a different name for "an apex that's at the bottom.")

Ed: It looks like it's antapex.
I'm not so sure. That's the opposite of the solar apex, the point in the sky that the Solar System is moving toward, but it doesn't seem to work as the opposite of a geometric apex. Then again, there's no other accepted word for it that I can find, so maybe antapex will do in a pinch.
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Old April 9 2013, 11:19 PM   #50
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(I suppose there's a different name for "an apex that's at the bottom.")

Ed: It looks like it's antapex.
I'm not so sure. That's the opposite of the solar apex, the point in the sky that the Solar System is moving toward, but it doesn't seem to work as the opposite of a geometric apex. Then again, there's no other accepted word for it that I can find, so maybe antapex will do in a pinch.
Or perhaps "B-pex"?
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Old April 9 2013, 11:29 PM   #51
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Maybe it's simply the sight adjustment.
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Old April 10 2013, 12:21 AM   #52
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I always Kirk was setting it to max/kill setting when he rotated the chambers.

The old laser pistol also seems to have 3 output but with multiple emitters on front, sort of like a Pepperbox, versus the Phaser Rifle "Revolver".
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Old April 10 2013, 03:14 AM   #53
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In the close-up photos, the material looks more like the kind of metal that a lot of '50s and '60s appliances were made of.
A Phaser Rifle from the William Shatner-starring second pilot for Star Trek (Desilu Productions, Norway Corporation, 1966-1969). This one-of-a-kind weapon was created by toy inventor Reuben Klamer at the behest of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. When the original pilot presented to NBC was asked to be retooled for a more action-packed adventure, Roddenberry asked for a really big gun. Klamer designed and created the weapon at no charge to the production in exchange for potential licensing rights to the weapon. When production was wrapped, the piece was returned to Klamer and replaced with the now familiar pistol design used throughout the remaining three seasons of the original series. While this weapon was never seen again in the series, it was used in a number of studio-commissioned publicity photos and even represented on an early lunch box for the series. The weapon is constructed out of wood and finished with a blue/green metallic paint. There is additional detailing, including the hand-tooled aluminum barrel and spring-loaded trigger, a sliding switch to adjust the force setting, three plastic non-functional domed indicator lights and inset plastic panels as well as a telescoping antenna mounted to the top. Moveable pieces on the weapon include three acrylic “Turret Tubes” cylinders with what appears to be copper painted metal conduit with ends painted to match the three force settings. The entire turret unit turns on a center axis. The black shoulder butt also rotates to be used as a handle or shoulder stock. The weapon comes in the original custom-made case made to deliver the rifle to the studio.

Also included in the lot are copies of Inter-Department Communications from Roddenberry to Bob Justman, Bernie Weitzman and Ed Perlstein regarding the weapon as well as an original, signed letter from Roddenberry to Klamer, dated March 16, 1966. The letter informs Klamer that the series was picked up and they would continue discussions regarding Klamer’s possible involvement in creating more props for the show. Seven black and white Polaroid photographs accompany the lot showing the finished weapon from various angles with a letter to Klamer from employee AB Kander, discussing Roddenberry’s visit to the shop to inspect the rifle and approving the final product. Finally, the design plan for the rifle, signed by Roddenberry for approval on June 28, 1965. There is an additional pen sketch on the plan with some minor revisions to the weapon.
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Old April 10 2013, 03:35 AM   #54
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^Okay, then. It's a good paint job, and a good job shaping the wood to make it look like shaped metal.

I bet a modeler today could create a replica with working lights, though. Might make a nice collector's item.
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Old April 10 2013, 02:47 PM   #55
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I know Roddenberry.com sold one years ago, always like this prop for its place in Trek lore.
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Old April 11 2013, 07:02 AM   #56
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I bet a modeler today could create a replica with working lights, though. Might make a nice collector's item.
There's a good-looking replica being sold here:

http://www.xscapesprops.com/Star_Trek_Props_Page1.htm
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Old April 11 2013, 03:33 PM   #57
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I was at the auction and had lunch with the inventor. A fabulous, beautiful, and important piece.
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Old April 19 2013, 02:48 PM   #58
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I'm tempted to buy a replica one and get Shatner to sign it for me. (Do the stars sign things like replica props?)
I could then tell my husband one just like it is worth more than a quarter of a million.
He'd have a fit though if I told him it cost me $700 though

I wonder how much prop used on set TOS phasers go for.
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