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Old April 18 2013, 08:36 PM   #16
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I honestly only think Riker settled for Troi when he was visibly getting older and couldn't get away with it anymore.
Lol. It's a theory.
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Old April 19 2013, 01:32 AM   #17
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Novel authors, I should have specified.
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Old April 19 2013, 09:38 AM   #18
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VOY is a grey area, since the 'lost in space' concept is a series wide arc in itself.
They had the Kazon episodes that told a story, wit Maj Culluh. The Hirogen episodes also told a loose story.
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Old April 19 2013, 09:48 AM   #19
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There was the Picard having problems with children arc, from Farpoint through Disaster.


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Old May 1 2013, 01:04 AM   #20
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I like the "Shut up, Wesley!" arc.
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Old May 1 2013, 03:48 AM   #21
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And the "Enterprise is the only ship in range" arc...
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Old May 1 2013, 05:37 AM   #22
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Lessons has some nice callbacks to The Inner Light.
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Old May 1 2013, 12:56 PM   #23
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I like the Data/Pulaski arc. Some great character growth there within one season.
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Old May 1 2013, 01:48 PM   #24
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Picard's artificial heart arc. It's really gratifying how writers go back to previous material and "build" off of it to create one of the most powerful Picard episodes in the series. I mean, how do you portray someone who laughs at being stabbed through the heart and have that be in character for someone like Picard?
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I like the Data/Pulaski arc. Some great character growth there within one season.
You mean Data's ability to shrug off blatant racism? Pulaski certainly never overcame it. She was still ripping into him for being a machine as late as Peak Performance.
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Old May 7 2013, 07:34 AM   #26
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You mean Data's ability to shrug off blatant racism? Pulaski certainly never overcame it. She was still ripping into him for being a machine as late as Peak Performance.
I always thought what they were trying to do with that was to echo the Spock/Bones relationship...but sadly it went totally wrong and Pulaski comes across as downright rude most of the time. I´m not sure if the problem is the writing itself, if Muldaur just can´t play "goodhearted ribbing" or both?
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Old May 9 2013, 12:06 PM   #27
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I thought the Pulaski/Data relationship developed very well.

Data was treated as a machine by Pulaski at first (gosh, he was a machine!), but from Unnatural Selection onwards you could see a mutual respect. Watch episodes like Pen Pals and Peak Performance. If Muldaur had stayed on in season 3, we would have seen a further development Im sure.

Was sad to see her leave. Well, we actually never saw her leave unfortunately.
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Old May 9 2013, 04:10 PM   #28
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Something that's sort of unique to Star Trek TNG is the presence of mini-arcs that will have one or two usually non-consecutive episodes per season. In a way TNG is a show comprised predominantly of mini-arcs, as opposed to being a serial with one overarching arc.
I too like this aspect, but I don't think it was necessarily planned. It's just that TNG had a much tighter sense of continuity than TOS. It's quite surprising to rewatch season one and be reminded how tight the continuity is. Those scenes in "Coming Of Age" where Remmick questions the crew about events that have taken place over several episodes gave a really great sense of these being real people whose adventures really take place in some kind of consecutive time-frame. It definitely ads to the rewatchibility factor.

Comparatively, TOS pretty much just had the Organian Peace Treaty, which got dredged up in the Klingon episodes, along with the Vulcan stuff that just got built on with each new addition to Spock's character. Both of which were for their time surprisingly effective pieces of continuity, but TNG definitely had a richer vein running through it's seven years.
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Old May 9 2013, 09:05 PM   #29
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TOS would occasionally make direct reference to past episodes, though. Kirk, for example, advises Spock to use the same telepathic trick that he used in "A Taste of Armageddon" on the Kelvans in "By Any Other Name." In the same episode, he also indicates that the Enterprise had already visited the Galactic Barrier, a reference to "Where No Man Has Gone Before."

TNG did this more, though. (And DS9 did it more than TNG).
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You mean Data's ability to shrug off blatant racism? Pulaski certainly never overcame it. She was still ripping into him for being a machine as late as Peak Performance.
I always thought what they were trying to do with that was to echo the Spock/Bones relationship...but sadly it went totally wrong and Pulaski comes across as downright rude most of the time. I´m not sure if the problem is the writing itself, if Muldaur just can´t play "goodhearted ribbing" or both?
I dunno, it just always rubbed me as petty at best. Don't get me wrong, she was a breath of fresh air in that she wasn't drama free like the TNG crew so often is, but yeah... doesn't mean she was my favorite character. I would've liked seeing her back in a guest role now and again. Wesley and Yar both got their guest shots after they left. Heck, Muldar was technically in more episodes than Crosby was I think.
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