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Old April 18 2013, 04:08 PM   #1
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My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

I've been thinking about this for some time and I think I now know who he is.
Harrison is a Klingon.
but he is a Klingon affected by the Augment Virus and/or has been altered to look human a la "Trouble with Tribbles". If he's an augment, then we have our link to Khan.

This explains why part of the movie is set on Q'onos. It also explains why he's referred to as Starfleet's best agent. They mean Double Agent.

It also explains why Kirk refers to the beginning of an all out war. He means with the Klingons.

The scenes where Harrison is fighting/killing Klingons is because even the Klingon Empire want him dead - either because he's an augment/double agent/insane.

What do you all think?

P.S The reason the Klingons wear helmets it because they are augments too. A way for normal Klingons to set them apart.
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Old April 18 2013, 04:10 PM   #2
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

I don't think the new Trek movie is likely to reference any Enterprise episode.
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Old April 18 2013, 04:15 PM   #3
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

Well Enterprise Episode or Not. It is well established that Klingons imitate humans. Maybe this is the case for Harrison too. Or maybe he's a human imitating a Klingon.
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Old April 18 2013, 04:43 PM   #4
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

Who are those lizard like aliens in the trailer?
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Old April 18 2013, 04:43 PM   #5
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He's not a Klingon.
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Old April 18 2013, 05:29 PM   #6
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John Harrison is really Arne Darvin.
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Old April 18 2013, 05:45 PM   #7
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Jesus fuck, you people!

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Old April 18 2013, 05:51 PM   #8
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He's Khan.
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Old April 18 2013, 05:58 PM   #9
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He's Khan.
No, he isn't.
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Old April 18 2013, 06:25 PM   #10
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Yes, he is.
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Old April 18 2013, 06:40 PM   #11
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I doubt he is Khan.

One thing we seemed to have forgotten is...

The Prime Universe Original Series had a character named "John Harrison" who was NOT Khan. He was just John, a background character seen a couple times going about his routine duty.

A couple weeks back, (I believe it was) Alice Eve said [paraphrased] it was fun watching us freak out over who JH is when the answer was really very simple. Isn't the simplest answer that JH is simply JH... The same character from TOS but, due to changes in the timeline after Nero's incursion, living a different string of life experiences?

I am not saying Khan cannot somehow be involved, just that, given all the evidence we have the likelihood he is Khan Noonien Singh is slight at best.
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Old April 18 2013, 06:44 PM   #12
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If it just turns out to be, "OMG, he's Khan," then big deal, because whether he's Harrison or Khan, he's obviously a badass and extremely dangerous. Whoever he is, he looks like he'd bitch-slap the Khan from the prime universe and ask him to make him a cup of tea.

As far as I'm concerned at this point, if he's Khan, then there's going to have to be some other big surprising payoff from him being Khan to have made the secrecy (or at least continued denials) make sense. Everyone in the new universe is meeting him for the first time. They know nothing of "Space Seed" or TWOK, so the secrecy behind his real identity has to fit into the story, I hope, and also shock our heroes for some reason. (And I'm assuming it will.)
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Old April 18 2013, 06:45 PM   #13
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Re: My Theory about who Harrison is (Spoiler Alert)

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The Prime Universe Original Series had a character named "John Harrison" who was NOT Khan. He was just John, a background character seen a couple times going about his routine duty.
They're not just gonna pick some random background character to be the villain. And they're especially not going to go to great lengths to hide his identity if that were the case.

The one thing the original post likely has right is that "John Harrison" has got to be a cover of sorts. It'd be funny if it weren't though.
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Old April 18 2013, 06:57 PM   #14
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I doubt he is Khan.

One thing we seemed to have forgotten is...

The Prime Universe Original Series had a character named "John Harrison" who was NOT Khan. He was just John, a background character seen a couple times going about his routine duty.

A couple weeks back, (I believe it was) Alice Eve said [paraphrased] it was fun watching us freak out over who JH is when the answer was really very simple. Isn't the simplest answer that JH is simply JH... The same character from TOS but, due to changes in the timeline after Nero's incursion, living a different string of life experiences?

I am not saying Khan cannot somehow be involved, just that, given all the evidence we have the likelihood he is Khan Noonien Singh is slight at best.
Actually, there were two Harrison. The one that you've refer too; And William B. Harrison, flight officer of the S.S. Beagle.
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Old April 18 2013, 07:22 PM   #15
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The Prime Universe Original Series had a character named "John Harrison" who was NOT Khan. He was just John, a background character seen a couple times going about his routine duty.
They're not just gonna pick some random background character to be the villain. And they're especially not going to go to great lengths to hide his identity if that were the case.

The one thing the original post likely has right is that "John Harrison" has got to be a cover of sorts. It'd be funny if it weren't though.
Fact is, villain or not, code-name or not, they DID pick some random background character from TOS; John Harrison.

Did they really go to great lengths to hide his identity... I think they revealed it months ago. It was us who could not simply accept that at face value, began theory building.

TrekMovie: A few months back Bob told me that Benedict Cumberbatch’s character would be from Star Trek’s canon. Today we find out that he is named John Harrison. So are both of those things still true?
Alex Kurtzman: Well without revealing too much what I can tell you is that in the same spirit as “can the Enterprise be under water? What does that mean? How are we going to justify this? How are we going to explain it?” We went back and we talked a lot about things that made us want to make the first movie in the first place as fans. And what do we feel was successful for the fans. A lot of that had to do with honoring the history — honoring the show. But we also want to come up with a way to make the stories feel fresh and unpredictable. So without revealing too much, we applied the same thinking to Harrison.
To me this means NuJH is simply TOS JH with a fresh twist.

Thanks yenny.
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