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Old April 17 2013, 12:46 AM   #1
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Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

The 'main' Q is somehow simultaneously challenged by every other being in the Star Trek universe: all humans, all Borgs, all Douwds, all Organians, Trelane, all Metrons, Nagilum, Edo god, etc., etc.

The other members of the Q are watching from the Continuum, but not interfering.

The team gets 40 months of prep time. Can they do anything to Q, or will they be easily defeated?
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Old April 17 2013, 02:18 AM   #2
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

Q, FTW.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:22 AM   #3
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

*fingersnap*

They're GONE!
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Old April 17 2013, 09:47 AM   #4
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

Something interesting that I've noticed from the various Q episodes is, whenever someone (like Picard) has told Q to go away, within a short period of time he has.

One time he said something like, "I'm leaving because I choose to, not because you told me too."

This does make me wonder if Q has to go if directly told to do so, whether he wants to or not. If "everyone" were to simultaneously tell Q to go away, he just might cease to exist.

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*fingersnap* They're GONE!
The Q continum has the main Q on a leash, it's a long leash but it's there. If he tried to snap a large group out of existence, he'd find himself naked and powerless again.

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Old April 17 2013, 09:59 AM   #5
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

He doesn't need to snap them out of existence, he can just send them really, really far away.
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Old April 17 2013, 12:41 PM   #6
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He doesn't need to snap them out of existence, he can just send them really, really far away.
Send them to the cornfield.


I think he'd be done in by carnivorous tribbles. What a way to go.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:14 PM   #7
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Trelane could make the difference here.

What are the limits of his power again? Because if I remember correctly there was some speculation he WAS a Q
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Old April 17 2013, 02:44 PM   #8
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

In a Peter David novel he was.

Kirk managed to render him powerless by destroying his amplifier machine, so his abilities were technology based.
Trelane's parents seemed less bound by technology, but they didn't bother showing off either.

I think the strongest contenders might be the Organians.

By everyone else, even the Borg, Q would be pretty untouchable and the best the team can hope for is a stalemate.
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Old April 17 2013, 08:26 PM   #9
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All you really need to do is give Lwaxana Troi either the power of an Organian or a Douwd and send her after Q - problem solved!
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Old April 17 2013, 08:49 PM   #10
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Yet they're oddly vulnerable to civil war muskets.
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Old April 18 2013, 02:11 AM   #11
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

It seems that the general consensus is that Q is so far above the others that if he doesn't want them to exist, there's not much they can do about it. This is obvious in the case of Romulans, changelings, and androids, but Douwds, Organians, Trelane, Metrons, etc., are depicted as being very advanced. (Trelane had his machine but was still very advanced compared to humanoids.)

It would be interesting to note whether dispatching of a Douwd or Organian would be 'harder' for Q (even infinitesimally so), or if eliminating a very powerful being would be as simple as destroying a Tribble or a Kelvan.

Also, I wonder if the combined might of these beings could injure Q (however slightly). This is assuming that Q is somehow 'taken by surprise,' or whatever, and he just doesn't vanish them away immediately.
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Old April 18 2013, 05:25 AM   #12
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Stuff him into the TARDIS! Oh, wait, that would be a crossover wouldn't it? Besides, Q would just make one as big as a Borg cube appear and say "Mine's bigger on the outside!"
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Old April 18 2013, 05:50 AM   #13
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Re: Q vs. Everyone Else in the Universe

Captain McBain wrote: View Post
It seems that the general consensus is that Q is so far above the others that if he doesn't want them to exist, there's not much they can do about it. This is obvious in the case of Romulans, changelings, and androids, but Douwds, Organians, Trelane, Metrons, etc., are depicted as being very advanced. (Trelane had his machine but was still very advanced compared to humanoids.)

It would be interesting to note whether dispatching of a Douwd or Organian would be 'harder' for Q (even infinitesimally so), or if eliminating a very powerful being would be as simple as destroying a Tribble or a Kelvan.

Also, I wonder if the combined might of these beings could injure Q (however slightly). This is assuming that Q is somehow 'taken by surprise,' or whatever, and he just doesn't vanish them away immediately.

This is also assuming members of the Q Continuum would ever let an actual Q be injured.

Even when Q was going to destroy himself by taking out a shuttle and letting that energy field destroy him (can't remember the name of the episode off the top of my head), another Q stepped in and saved him.


One question I do have given recent scientific discoveries... Could the Q Continuum stop the implosion of the Universe?

Check that, I'll make a new thread out of it.
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Old April 27 2013, 04:54 PM   #14
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The implosion I think so--but it seems we are moving towards heat death or a big rip.

I think the Douwds have the best shot at the Q. The Organian attempt to stop conflict and the Excalbian attempts to foment it cancelled each other out, according to DC, leaving things freer.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:24 PM   #15
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Captain Robau wins
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