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Old April 12 2013, 01:10 PM   #16
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Re: Ringworld and Childhood's End mini-series coming to Syfy

I only worry about the quality of major CGI characters like Nessus and Schmee on a TV series budget. Yes, a film would be able to do them in 100% perfection like Gollum, but can Skiffy afford that?
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Old April 16 2013, 11:32 PM   #17
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I don't know about that, TV cgi these days is pretty good...even occasionally on syfy tv movies.
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Old April 17 2013, 12:12 AM   #18
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SyFy original movies are just gawd awful. They're worse than just bad. But they have put out some very good mini series. That channel is a mixed bag to say the least.
People don't realize that the SyFy movies are supposed to be awful. They're made for next to nothing, and are going for the classic B movie feel. The movies aren't high art, but they're not trying to be that either. The movies are exactly what SyFy wants them to be, and they happen to generate a nice profit too.
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Old April 17 2013, 12:16 AM   #19
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I don't know about that, TV cgi these days is pretty good...even occasionally on syfy tv movies.
I dunno. Once Upon a Time recently had an episode that featured an all-CG character (technically, one that was mo-capped), and it was both a budget-buster and it looked plain awful. And that was on a major network!
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Old April 17 2013, 12:19 AM   #20
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BSG and Caprica did have the all CGI Cylons and I thought looked pretty good at the time.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:21 AM   #21
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Those were used pretty sparingly, though.
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Network budgets are often smaller than cable.
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Old April 17 2013, 03:48 AM   #23
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Network budgets are often smaller than cable.
Typically premium cable has the highest budgets, then network, then basic cable, although there are a few exceptions here and there that buck that pattern.
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Old April 17 2013, 03:51 AM   #24
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Network budgets are often smaller than cable.
Typically premium cable has the highest budgets, then network, then basic cable, although there are a few exceptions here and there that buck that pattern.
Smaller episode counts for premium/basic cable help, too.
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Old April 17 2013, 04:12 AM   #25
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*cough* do Rendezvous with Rama instead *cough*
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I don't know about that, TV cgi these days is pretty good...even occasionally on syfy tv movies.
I dunno. Once Upon a Time recently had an episode that featured an all-CG character (technically, one that was mo-capped), and it was both a budget-buster and it looked plain awful. And that was on a major network!
While not the same I'm amazed how much CG is used without anyone ever really noticing.

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Old April 17 2013, 05:46 AM   #27
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The 24 guys were smart enough to 1) use models and photographic plates where possible and 2.) (and far more importantly) shoot their actors outside in natural daylight for the greenscreen stuff, rather than indoors with studio lighting like Once Upon a Time does. It's really hard to fake natural light and that wrecks so many of Once's shots.
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Old April 17 2013, 06:25 AM   #28
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*cough* do Rendezvous with Rama instead *cough*
Why not all three?
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Old April 17 2013, 11:32 AM   #29
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Mega-Puppeteer vs. Kzinti-don?

I've actually not watched anything other than BSG on Siffy in a decade or more... the reports about the Riverworld atrocity kept me away from their Dune ones, though I've heard OK things about those.
Dune was OK but dull. Children of Dune was actually rather good.

Have to admit, while I've seen both live adaptations of Riverworld I've yet to read the book they're based on, so I can't say how well or poorly they treat the source material. Having said that, I'm at a loss as to why people felt the need to tackle this one twice. Doesn't seem that interesting at all. Is there some major subtext from the books that they both miss? I just don't get it.

As for Ringworld & Childhood's End....given SyFy's track record these last five plus years, I can't say I'm holding out much hope. Mind you, while the concept for the Ringworld itself is of course hard sci-fi, as a story it's pretty standard adventure fair. So there's not much to get wrong in terms of content. Plenty in terms of tone, casting and direction of course. Personally, I anticipate dullness.

Childhood's End is a totally different animal. I'm not sure how they'll approach it--much less how they'll get a way with having millions of naked children dancing around. Again, the tone of the thing is key.
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Old April 17 2013, 01:05 PM   #30
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I'd prefer an adaptation of The City and the Stars to Childhood's End -- if only because I think the notion of a species achieving transcendence to godhead by evolution is basically a fantasy concept.
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