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Old April 16 2013, 09:32 AM   #76
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Re: The Defiance Thread - News about the Show and Game

The show looks good. The aliens look interesting. I will certainly watch the next week episode.

There are still more alien species yet to be featured like the energy based Gulanee and yet another votan race that supposedly did not make it to the ships that were launched from their star system. i am guessing that they might make an appearance later on in the series. The human created biomen had an interesting appearance with their massive neck muscles.
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Old April 16 2013, 09:41 AM   #77
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If you just want to kill enough of the people so that the rest run away, you use nerve gas.

This plan was stupid.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:01 PM   #78
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The plan had to fit the video game.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:07 PM   #79
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Nerve gas would've also killed the defenders, since just ducking under cover wouldn't have protected them. Besides, look at how they've had to build a makeshift community from scrounged resources, what was left over in the ruins of the old civilization. Why would they even have nerve gas?
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Old April 16 2013, 04:47 PM   #80
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Nerve gas would've also killed the defenders, since just ducking under cover wouldn't have protected them.
Actually I think Guy is talking about the bad guys using the nerve gas instead of sending in the alien death army becuase they want the town empty so they can look for the magufin thingy.

Besides, look at how they've had to build a makeshift community from scrounged resources, what was left over in the ruins of the old civilization. Why would they even have nerve gas?
Though that is a valid point.

Another one is how do you know nerve gas would work on any of the aliens races and if it did if it would work on all of them.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:51 PM   #81
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^Maybe the Volge don't have nerve gas either. Everybody is in relatively bad shape following the Pale Wars and the Arkfall, and the various Votan races are at a distinct disadvantage considering that they're refugees on someone else's turf. They only had what they brought with them, and a lot of that was no doubt expended in the wars and the initial Arkfall.

Hey, I just thought of that -- everyone's comparing this to older shows like Firefly and Galactica and even Babylon 5, but the idea of alien refugees arriving in vast starships and having to assimilate with humans is reminiscent of the great '90s series Alien Nation. The difference being that in Defiance, even the humans are refugees along with everyone else.
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Old April 16 2013, 06:15 PM   #82
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Interesting show, but I don't know if it'll keep my interest. Nolan doesn't seem to be very likeable, at least not to me, and is hard to identify with.

One minor off-putting thing was the change in terms for things that it doesn't seem like a long enough time for it to change. Like lawkeeper instead of sheriff, or roller instead of car or truck.

As a former resident of STL and a structural design engineer, I was glad to see that the in-show version of the arch is still mostly intact. The art that's been shown in the ads and such show a version of the arch that has a gap near the top. Knowing how it was actually built, I can tell you that it would not remain standing if there were any gaps. I couldn't see the portholes at the top, though.

Hmm.... in the middle writing this^, I found this:
“The kind of arch it is, if you take a big chunk out at 2 o’clock, it will fall down,” Murphy says, not quite coming up with the word “catenary.” “The plating was ripped off during a Voton attack. The Arch miraculously didn’t come down. It held together for a reason that is part of the show’s mythology, but we won’t find out why the Arch didn’t fall until much later.”
Rafe McCawley (Graham Greene), “the richest guy in town, is a St. Louis native, and he wanted to repair the Arch,” Murphy explains. “The inner skeleton was beginning to show, and he worried that it was going to fall.”
McCawley’s own engineers tried everything they knew, “but it didn’t work, and the Arch was going to come down like the Leaning Tower of Pisa,” Murphy says, enjoying his story. The mayor — Amanda Rosewater, played by Julie Benz — “said we have to go to the Votons for help if we’re going to save the Arch.”
That actually interests me a bit more.
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Old April 16 2013, 06:32 PM   #83
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Farscape on Earth. You got a bunch of Chianas, some Dargos, at least one John Chrichton and the soft-spoken blue chick is now a soft-spoken ivory chick. And then there's a bunch of guns. The only thing missing are the Jim Henson muppet characters.

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Old April 16 2013, 06:50 PM   #84
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Old April 16 2013, 06:53 PM   #85
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The pilot was ok, I'll watch the next episode. It started out very cliched, and the main characters were acting like idiots (going into a crashed ship to salvage was such an obvious set up for some kind of raider attack I was almost yelling at them through the TV) but it got better near the end. Some of the CG was definately done on the cheap, and the Indogene kind of bad (you could see the shape of the actor's ears covered by the makeup, with a small hole cut in the middle of the ear that made the whole thing look more like you are seeing a person in makeup than an alien, they were easily the worst of the non cgi aliens appearance wise). I also don't like the alien/human "romance" thing with the kids. Its cliche, and not very well done in this case. Having the boy's dad be undeniably evil was weird. You'd think they would atleast try to make you think he was an ass who could be redeemed maybe, instead of going completely with the parents being completely evil. Also, the guy and his daughter wandering into town after an accident and the guy eventually becoming Sheriff reminds me of Eureka (which I really liked) but its not as interesting in this, since its been done better and more interesting before. Still, I'll give it another episode or two.
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Old April 16 2013, 07:06 PM   #86
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B.J. wrote: View Post
As a former resident of STL and a structural design engineer, I was glad to see that the in-show version of the arch is still mostly intact. The art that's been shown in the ads and such show a version of the arch that has a gap near the top. Knowing how it was actually built, I can tell you that it would not remain standing if there were any gaps. I couldn't see the portholes at the top, though.

Hmm.... in the middle writing this^, I found this:
“The kind of arch it is, if you take a big chunk out at 2 o’clock, it will fall down,” Murphy says, not quite coming up with the word “catenary.” “The plating was ripped off during a Voton attack. The Arch miraculously didn’t come down. It held together for a reason that is part of the show’s mythology, but we won’t find out why the Arch didn’t fall until much later.”
Rafe McCawley (Graham Greene), “the richest guy in town, is a St. Louis native, and he wanted to repair the Arch,” Murphy explains. “The inner skeleton was beginning to show, and he worried that it was going to fall.”
McCawley’s own engineers tried everything they knew, “but it didn’t work, and the Arch was going to come down like the Leaning Tower of Pisa,” Murphy says, enjoying his story. The mayor — Amanda Rosewater, played by Julie Benz — “said we have to go to the Votons for help if we’re going to save the Arch.”
That actually interests me a bit more.
So there's a reason why the Arch is still standing, but they're not telling yet.
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Old April 16 2013, 09:20 PM   #87
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Ratings are in:

Last night’s series premiere of Syfy’s new drama Defiance drew 2.7 million viewers and 1.3 million adults 18-49 to become the channel’s most-watched scripted series premiere in adults 18-49 and 18-34 (479,000) in seven years, since the 2006 debut of Eureka. The two-hour Defiance opener also delivered Syfy’s top performance in total viewers and adults 25-54 (1.4 million) since 2009 (Warehouse 13).
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Old April 16 2013, 09:23 PM   #88
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Enterprise is Great wrote: View Post
Ratings are in:

Last night’s series premiere of Syfy’s new drama Defiance drew 2.7 million viewers and 1.3 million adults 18-49 to become the channel’s most-watched scripted series premiere in adults 18-49 and 18-34 (479,000) in seven years, since the 2006 debut of Eureka. The two-hour Defiance opener also delivered Syfy’s top performance in total viewers and adults 25-54 (1.4 million) since 2009 (Warehouse 13).
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Old April 16 2013, 09:50 PM   #89
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Defiance isn't grabbing me so far - Jericho meets Falling Skies (with a bit of Alien Nation), with some dubious effects, and the feel of cutscenes for the game... Mainly I just want them to stop so I could get back to gameplay... (which would be difficult as I don't have the game)

Also, yeah, it's from the guy who made Farscape, and it's trying too hard to look like a Farscape knockoff in places - bald woman in robes, big alien guy with gruff attitude and voice (who has tentacle-like beard and hair with rings along it...)
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Old April 16 2013, 09:51 PM   #90
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Hartzilla2007 wrote: View Post
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Ratings are in:

Last night’s series premiere of Syfy’s new drama Defiance drew 2.7 million viewers and 1.3 million adults 18-49 to become the channel’s most-watched scripted series premiere in adults 18-49 and 18-34 (479,000) in seven years, since the 2006 debut of Eureka. The two-hour Defiance opener also delivered Syfy’s top performance in total viewers and adults 25-54 (1.4 million) since 2009 (Warehouse 13).
Sounds good.
Right up there with Smackdown....

I am glad to see scripted series be successful.
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