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Old April 15 2013, 06:27 PM   #16
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Re: Quantum slipstream drive questions

Voyager actually returned in mid-2378. Remember them celebrating First Contact Day in Season 7?

Do you think we'll hear about Trans-Slipstream again?
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Old April 15 2013, 07:28 PM   #17
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Voyager actually returned in mid-2378. Remember them celebrating First Contact Day in Season 7?
But Neelix was the one throwing the party, so who says the anniversary was in Earth years?

As far as the Pocket novel continuity is concerned, "Endgame" happened at the end of 2377/start of 2378. There are alternate fan interpretations out there, but that's the way it is in the novelverse.
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Old April 15 2013, 07:39 PM   #18
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I always was under the impression that the end of a season was the end of a year, roughly. The Dominion War ended late 2375, which was the end of season 5 for Voyager. So season 6 ends late 2376 and the season 7 ended late 2377. That's how I always saw it anyway.
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Old April 15 2013, 07:47 PM   #19
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^And that's the assumption used in the books, yes. It does create a couple of continuity glitches here and there, but what doesn't in Trek?
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Old April 16 2013, 02:49 AM   #20
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So are we assuming that Voyager somehow communicated slipstream tech information back to Starfleet via operational portions of the Hirogen network, whereupon the Vesta and Meerian-class ships were initiated? I find it difficult to accept that a 100,000-year-old comm network spanning tens of thousands of light-years just flarging crashed completely and irrevocably because of one node incident.

Or do we assume that Starfleet had a slipstream drive project already in progress, which led to Vestas and Meerians? Clearly, Meerians were already in-service by the time of the "Pathfinder" episode, which AFAIK was the only time since "Message In A Bottle" in the Voyager TV series that Voyager communicated with Starfleet.

Additionally, is slipstream drive an actual "drive"? Or is it a form of deflector-related technology? Or both? The focusing thing on the Vesta makes me wonder, as do the modified Voyager nacelles that have been written about but not seen yet.
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Old April 16 2013, 03:20 AM   #21
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[D]o we assume that Starfleet had a slipstream drive project already in progress, which led to Vestas and Meerians? Clearly, Meerians were already in-service by the time of the "Pathfinder" episode, which AFAIK was the only time since "Message In A Bottle" in the Voyager TV series that Voyager communicated with Starfleet.

Additionally, is slipstream drive an actual "drive"? Or is it a form of deflector-related technology? Or both? The focusing thing on the Vesta makes me wonder, as do the modified Voyager nacelles that have been written about but not seen yet.
Slipstream is a drive, but it also requires modifications to the shielding of ships and to the ships themselves to be a workable drive--the Typhon Pact needed to acquire Dominion shield technology as a precondition for deploying slipstream drive.

As for the question of whether or not the Federation (and the Romulans, and the Breen, et cetera) had slipstream research programs before Voyager came with its technology, I'm inclined to think that there were at least research programs in the more advanced Alpha and Beta Quadrants towards advanced propulsion methods which happened to be compatible with Species 118's slipstream.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:41 AM   #22
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Heck, you can modify a standard Starfleet deflector dish to generate a slipstream conduit, as we saw in VGR. So it's not a total start-from-scratch technology that would take decades to develop. It's more a new application of potentials that Starfleet vessels already have. And some shapes and sizes of vessel are better equipped for it than others.
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Old April 16 2013, 10:37 AM   #23
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Just found this in another thread - it's an early design for Voyager.

I must admit that I like this - more than the one used. I'd like to see this appear in Treklit, possibly as part of the 'Voyager' fleet...I presume it would be suitable for Slipstream adaptation.
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Old April 16 2013, 01:16 PM   #24
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Just found this in another thread - it's an early design for Voyager.

I must admit that I like this - more than the one used. I'd like to see this appear in Treklit, possibly as part of the 'Voyager' fleet...I presume it would be suitable for Slipstream adaptation.
I recall that on one of the Voyager Season 1 DVD Special Features, the producers actually show a mock-up model of that design.
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Old April 19 2013, 05:09 AM   #25
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Just found this in another thread - it's an early design for Voyager.
I must admit, I've always loved that proto-Voyager!

Pics of the study model can be seen here. (I think they used to be at starshipdatalink.net too, but that site appears to be down... for now? or permanently?)
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Old April 19 2013, 09:04 PM   #26
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Heck, you can modify a standard Starfleet deflector dish to generate a slipstream conduit, as we saw in VGR. So it's not a total start-from-scratch technology that would take decades to develop. It's more a new application of potentials that Starfleet vessels already have. And some shapes and sizes of vessel are better equipped for it than others.

Starfleet would've needed to have researched the technology further from that point, since as you recall Voyager just made it into slipstream space, but when it did, the stresses were so high that Voyager's integrity field was just holding the ship together.
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