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Old April 15 2013, 05:57 PM   #16
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Re: Kirk's first encounter with bumpy-headed Klingons

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McCoy gave Kirk the reading glasses in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan as a birthday present. TWOK is clearly before the E-A shows up (Kirk even had the glasses in 1986 San Francisco, minus the lenses, before he got command of the A).
Uhh, yes, that is of course the whole point -- that if Kirk needs glasses in the novel, it must be after TWOK. But it also has Kirk at captain's rank and has him, Spock, and the rest of the crew aboard the Enterprise, and the only way that can happen after TWOK is if it's also after TVH.
Well, there is the fact that anybody who commands a starship is referred to as "captain," regardless of their actual rank.
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Old April 15 2013, 06:09 PM   #17
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Re: Kirk's first encounter with bumpy-headed Klingons

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Well, there is the fact that anybody who commands a starship is referred to as "captain," regardless of their actual rank.
Tell that to the people who wrote the second through fourth movies, in which Kirk was consistently called "Admiral" even when he was in command of a starship. Canonical Trek has almost never acknowledged that tradition (except in a few DS9 episodes), presumably because it would confuse audience members who were unfamiliar with naval conventions.

Anyway, it's a moot point. Regardless of his title, Kirk is portrayed in the novel as the regular commanding officer of the ship and has his entire standard command crew serving under him, including Spock. The only time those things could be the case after he starts wearing glasses in TWOK would be following TVH.

The problem with this idea, though, is that Spock is addressed in the novel as "Mr. Spock" rather than "Captain Spock." So the chronology of the novel is a bit confused. The glasses reference may simply be a continuity error.
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Old May 1 2013, 11:51 PM   #18
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Re: Kirk's first encounter with bumpy-headed Klingons

I've finally had a look through some novels, and I suspect I might have been misremembering Faces of Fire, which has a bumpy-headed Klingon on the cover (and is described as such within) and the aliens had yellow eyes. Although there is no scene where Kirk speaks to a Klingon on the viewscreen.
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