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View Poll Results: Rate The Stuff of Dreams.
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Old April 5 2013, 03:01 AM   #61
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Re: TNG: The Stuff of Dreams by James Swallow Review Thread (Spoilers!

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I just hope this novel will not be to essential to The Fall, later this year. I don't have an e-reader, so don't read e-books.
It's short. You have a computer. So there's no reason not to read this one just because it's an eBook only. If you have a smartphone, there are apps for that. If you have a tablet, there are apps for that. And because you have a computer, there are programs for that.
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Old April 5 2013, 03:48 AM   #62
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Although, of course, no novel is ever "essential" to any other novel unless it's explicitly part of the same duology or trilogy. It's not like we're deliberately trying to confuse our readers.
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Old April 5 2013, 08:02 AM   #63
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Great to have a new 24th century outing before later this year. Also, the Kinshaya appear to be underused to me, so it was an extra bonus to see them again and get an update on their political situation since The Struggle Within.

Concerning e-books and generally shorter stories: You can have complete stories that don't feel rushed. I'm used to reading Heftromane (pulp fiction?) in series. There's a new novel coming out every two weeks. Condensed on 64 pages, it still manages to tell a complete adventure and toeing the line between standalone (so that new readers can pick up any novel) and serialisation (ongoing plot thread, usually resolved every 50 novels).

Do be honest, I've read only a part of SCE by now but I plan to revisit the series in full sometime but I'm lagging behind on other series that I want to complete reading first.

These short stories are a nice way to answer the question "Whatever happened to the planet of the week afterwards?", as SCE did it sometimes (e.g. Progress).
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Old April 7 2013, 06:16 AM   #64
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I was quite impressed by The Stuff of Dreams.

It's a bit of a sad book, another title dealing with the aftermath of the Borg's rampages whether in the persons of Soran or the novella's nominal villain. (The ending of his story, too, is as bittersweet as anything I've come across.)

It was good to see the Nexus, nice to see the Kinshaya again, and a good entry overall.
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Old April 8 2013, 05:50 AM   #65
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I rather enjoyed this one.

One thing that struck me about The Stuff of Dreams is that the story fit into the novella size very well. When I had read The Struggle Within, it seemed to me that it was a full novel compressed down to novella length. (Note that I'm not trying to say that this is how it was actually created; it's just an impression that I had when reading it. It just seemed too short for the story it was trying to contain.) But TSoD just seemed to fit its size restrictions much better.

Not sure if I'm explaining this thought very well, but I'm tired, so I hope you get the idea.
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Old April 8 2013, 06:04 AM   #66
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One thing that struck me about The Stuff of Dreams is that the story fit into the novella size very well. When I had read The Struggle Within, it seemed to me that it was a full novel compressed down to novella length. (Note that I'm not trying to say that this is how it was actually created; it's just an impression that I had when reading it. It just seemed too short for the story it was trying to contain.) But TSoD just seemed to fit its size restrictions much better.
I know exactly what you mean, and I felt the same way. At no point did I think to myself that it was too short or that I wanted more than what was presented. The story fit the format perfectly.
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Old April 8 2013, 01:20 PM   #67
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I got a chance to talk to James about this book in our latest Literary Treks podcast that is out!
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Old April 8 2013, 01:40 PM   #68
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One thing that struck me about The Stuff of Dreams is that the story fit into the novella size very well. When I had read The Struggle Within, it seemed to me that it was a full novel compressed down to novella length. (Note that I'm not trying to say that this is how it was actually created; it's just an impression that I had when reading it. It just seemed too short for the story it was trying to contain.) But TSoD just seemed to fit its size restrictions much better.
I know exactly what you mean, and I felt the same way. At no point did I think to myself that it was too short or that I wanted more than what was presented. The story fit the format perfectly.
It was a good episode. When does filming begin?
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Old April 14 2013, 02:37 AM   #69
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I just realized I forgot to vote. My vote just broke the tie.
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Old April 15 2013, 09:36 AM   #70
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I got a chance to talk to James about this book in our latest Literary Treks podcast that is out!
Great episode. I am going to give the book a read later today
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Old April 15 2013, 01:20 PM   #71
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I got a chance to talk to James about this book in our latest Literary Treks podcast that is out!
Great episode. I am going to give the book a read later today
You'll enjoy it! It's a great read and can be read in a quick sitting.
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Old April 15 2013, 05:11 PM   #72
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Finished it today and I must admit it's easily the best Trek novella I've ever read.
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Old April 15 2013, 06:47 PM   #73
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Finished it today and I must admit it's easily the best Trek novella I've ever read.
I completely agree! This is a standout for me!
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Old April 15 2013, 10:31 PM   #74
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I don't think anyone has addressed this yet, but for anyone who's read both, is The Stuff of Dreams consistent with Engines of Destiny?
The two stories don't really impact each other. The Nexus is only present in Engines of Destruction in the context of its appearance in the Generations prologue; the TNG portions of the story are set during season 6 of the show, so Picard's visit to the Nexus hasn't happened yet. Also, EoD doesn't really look at the interior reality of the Nexus, whereas The Stuff of Dreams does.

I enjoyed The Stuff of Dreams. Like others have said, it felt more like an episode of the show than the full-length novels; the eBook novella format is just the right size to tell these simple episodic stories, and I do wish SCE hadn't had to end. That said, I found the "whodunnit" mystery more compelling than the parts of the story inside the Nexus, which felt too much like a regurgitation of Generations' plot.
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Old April 16 2013, 10:02 PM   #75
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Great episode. I am going to give the book a read later today
You'll enjoy it! It's a great read and can be read in a quick sitting.
You are right. I finished it in one day I voted above average
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