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Old April 14 2013, 11:43 PM   #31
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

Wiley Miller, creator of the great "Non Sequitor" strip, once had a character state words to the effect of, "Stupidity is a condition, ignorance is a choice." Given that, I'm not going to say that Bieber meant to say anything ignorant.
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Old April 15 2013, 12:06 AM   #32
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I see no malice at all in his statement.
I see no malice either. I see an incredibly immature and self absorbed young man.
I don't see where he's supposed to be self absorbed. It's a fact that there are millions of average, everyday, teenage girls who adore Justin Bieber. So he wants to think that maybe she would have been a fan had the circumstances of her life been different. There's nothing wrong with that.
He's at Anne Frank's house confronted with the reality of the holocaust and he's talking about HIMSELF.

I like Bieber's music more than most people, I am not on the Bieber bashing bandwagon at all. But he sounds like a self-absorbed idiot. HEY BIEBER this is not about you AT ALL.

"I wish she'd been able to have the life of a normal teenage girl." That's how you express it without shoe horning yourself into it.
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Old April 15 2013, 12:15 AM   #33
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

You know, the Anne Frank museum has an entire wall full of celebrity pop star photos.
This is because Anne Frank was a 14 year old girl with the much the same tastes as all the other 14 year old girls of her time, which are much the same as other 14 year old girls today.

There's nothing wrong with being inspired by the girl and hoping that you live up to her relatively lacks standards for pop culture icons.


And Anne Frank probably would have been a Bieberer.
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Old April 15 2013, 01:33 AM   #34
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He's at Anne Frank's house confronted with the reality of the holocaust and he's talking about HIMSELF.

I like Bieber's music more than most people, I am not on the Bieber bashing bandwagon at all. But he sounds like a self-absorbed idiot. HEY BIEBER this is not about you AT ALL.

"I wish she'd been able to have the life of a normal teenage girl." That's how you express it without shoe horning yourself into it.
Exactly. He could have easily honored the poor girl's memory without including a shameless plug for himself.

Oh well. In the end, he's just an immature kid. Kids say and do stupid things. Hopefully, within a few years, he'll grow up into a useful member of society.
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Old April 15 2013, 01:39 AM   #35
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

His heart was in the right place but the execution was bad. It happens.
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Old April 15 2013, 01:40 AM   #36
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Because you paint a large swathe of people with a broad brush, on the basis that because someone has money and friends, they must be self absorbed.
Let's just say that Bieber is not exactly doing his part to disprove this assertion.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:05 AM   #37
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His heart was in the right place but the execution was bad. It happens.
Exactly. I don't think he meant anything bad by it, at all.

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Because you paint a large swathe of people with a broad brush, on the basis that because someone has money and friends, they must be self absorbed.
Let's just say that Bieber is not exactly doing his part to disprove this assertion.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:17 AM   #38
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^ Assuming any of that is genuine, rather than that imposed upon him/arranged by his handlers, I suppose that's a good thing.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:18 AM   #39
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^ Assuming any of that is genuine, rather than that imposed upon him/arranged by his handlers, I suppose that's a good thing.
Damn, guy, cut the kid a break!

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Old April 15 2013, 02:28 AM   #40
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I've long suspected that there is no such thing as an actual human being named Justin Bieber; rather, he is an Internet meme that somehow achieved sentience and escaped into the real world. Kind of like Russell Crowe (in Virtuosity) as the serial killer Sid 6.7, only more dangerous.
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

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Damn, guy, cut the kid a break!

Proud dad: "Hi, sir. My five year old daughter Suzy made you a hand painted picture of your house!"
Suzy: "Here, sir. I drewded this for you!"
MLB: "Hmm. Shutters aren't pink. Trees are deciduous not conifer. Sun is the wrong shade of yellow. Mediocre at best. That is, if it's your real work."

Jebus!
Justin Bieber is 19 years old. He's old enough to vote, so he's old enough to be held accountable for what he says. He's not "Suzy" and her hand painted picture.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:36 AM   #42
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I've long suspected that there is no such thing as an actual human being named Justin Bieber; rather, he is an Internet meme that somehow achieved sentience and escaped into the real world. Kind of like Russell Crowe (in Virtuosity) as the serial killer Sid 6.7, only more dangerous.
Oh, get serious. You know as well as I do he's a couple of cats wearing a mask, and Saturday morning cartoons have never steered me wrong.

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Damn, guy, cut the kid a break!

Proud dad: "Hi, sir. My five year old daughter Suzy made you a hand painted picture of your house!"
Suzy: "Here, sir. I drewded this for you!"
MLB: "Hmm. Shutters aren't pink. Trees are deciduous not conifer. Sun is the wrong shade of yellow. Mediocre at best. That is, if it's your real work."

Jebus!
Justin Bieber is 19 years old. He's old enough to vote, so he's old enough to be held accountable for what he says. He's not "Suzy" and her hand painted picture.
Suzy's a poser anyway. She outsourced that painting to Tommy, who traded it for a wheat penny and some tic tacs.

Seriously, though, it's just that he's a 19 year old kid, who wrote something he felt was positive and meaningful. It was, no way, intended to be anything negative. What happens? The internet explodes in outrage. It's absurdity. The Anne Frank house isn't upset about it. In fact, they seem happy about the whole thing.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:40 AM   #43
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I've long suspected that there is no such thing as an actual human being named Justin Bieber; rather, he is an Internet meme that somehow achieved sentience and escaped into the real world. Kind of like Russell Crowe (in Virtuosity) as the serial killer Sid 6.7, only more dangerous.
This is my new favorite theory EVER.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:47 AM   #44
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The Anne Frank house isn't upset about it.
That may well be the most important fact in this whole thread.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:53 AM   #45
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Unless Justin is an idiot, he wants everyone to like his music, and buy each album at least twice. Once for themselves and another from a friend.

Other random historical figures Justine hopes would have been fans.

Julius Caesar.
Betsy Ross.
J. Robert Oppenheimer.
Pochahontas
Susan B Anthony
Magellan.
Neil Armstrong.
Annie Oakley
Catherine the Great
Annette Funicello
Marie Antoinette.
Bob Hope.
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